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Re:If I were to invent a programming language for the 21st c... by sifoobar on Saturday November 17, 2018 @08:50PM (#18478455)
None, but that has very little to do with how capable the languages are in the hands of experienced coders. There's a ton of Forth being written in embedded circles, and several well known Lisp projects that are most probably even bigger.

And that's fine, they can keep writing their big projects using dumbed down languages and fresh out of school code monkeys. But there is plenty of code written that doesn't fit into that description.

Re:If I were to invent a programming language for the 21st c... by fooker on Saturday November 17, 2018 @09:26PM (#18478557)
Sure, they are awesome languages. We are talking about readability though, which unfortunately means your code has to be readable by "fresh out of school code monkeys" and not just experienced coders.
Re:If I were to invent a programming language for the 21st c... by kazinator on Saturday November 17, 2018 @10:43PM (#18478767)
So the Haskell to C++ rewrite in your earlier example is supposed to be beneficial, because fresh-out-of-school code monkeys will understand it?

How so if all they speak is JS and Python.

Re:If I were to invent a programming language for the 21st c... by fooker on Sunday November 18, 2018 @02:24AM (#18479275)
Someone only speaking JS or Python will have a significantly easier time with a C++ codebase than a huge Haskell codebase.

You can have someone totally new to the project fixing bugs in a few days.