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Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by icedchai on Thursday November 15, 2018 @03:50PM (#18463166)
They're probably not smart enough to get in, anyway. If they were, they'd go to FB, milk that huge salary, unload their RSU's on a regular basis, save and invest, and FIRE by age 35.

Signed, a CS graduate and FB stock holder with 500% return.

Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by hacknat on Thursday November 15, 2018 @03:56PM (#18463226)
Is it possible that someone smarter than you doesn’t want to work at Facebook?

There are plenty of reasons, beyond ideological ones, not to want to work there. I don’t think I have any ideological objections to Facebook, but the product itself doesn’t interest me and I’m not a user.

Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by rifung on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:02PM (#18463284)
> I don’t think I have any ideological objections to Facebook, but the product itself doesn’t interest me and I’m not a user.

I don't work at FB but I'm sure for a product of that scale even if you don't use or care about the product itself, there may be interesting projects for you to work on.

I also don't think I'd care to work on FB the product, but I'm sure it'd be interesting to get to use Haskell to fight spam and work with Simon Marlow. They also use OCaml for some compiler stuff that I'm sure would be interesting.

Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by saagarjha on Thursday November 15, 2018 @05:47PM (#18464204)
Just because you work on something interesting does not absolve you of the moral responsibility you have to yourself. And just because your project doesn’t seem like it will be used in one way today doesn’t mean it won’t be used to censor people the next.
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by rifung on Friday November 16, 2018 @05:17PM (#18472397)
> Just because you work on something interesting does not absolve you of the moral responsibility you have to yourself.

I agree and am not sure why you think I thought otherwise.

The person I was replying to said "I don't think I have any ideological objections to Facebook" which I assumed to mean they don't see any moral problems with Facebook.

I was merely disagreeing with the idea that someone's lack of interest in the exterior facing product implies there are no interesting projects for that person in the entire company.

Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by icedchai on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:10PM (#18463363)
I don't work at Facebook... I'm probably not smart enough, to be honest, and also don't have much interest in the product either. I just bought their stock after the IPO.
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by techelitism on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:11PM (#18463376)
>Is it possible that someone smarter than you doesn’t want to work at Facebook?

It's definitely possible, but they'd probably be working at another top tech company or finance company (think Citadel, Google, Jane Street) or starting their own company instead.

Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by eropple on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:16PM (#18463430)
Sorry, but yes, they probably are smart enough to get in. Or capable enough, which is the real thing that the wise amongst us actually measure rather than how smart one is.

Of the dozen or so folks I know at Facebook, I'd be excited to work with about two of them again. The others are...fine. Much like the folks Google hires now. They're fine.

Once you hit a certain point, you start hiring ditch-diggers just like everybody else. Because you've got ditches to dig.

Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by vonmoltke on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:27PM (#18463525)
Their standards for senior hires seem to be as high as ever. They seem to be unwilling to engage in the aggressive downleveling Google does, though.
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by natalyarostova on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:02PM (#18463283)
I'm sincerely happy for your success, but a self-gratifying condescension on 19 year old students isn't a good look.
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by bradenb on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:05PM (#18463311)
I found this comment to be really distasteful. Nothing about your "signature" proves you're any smarter than engineers that choose not to work at Facebook. It just makes you appear to be mean-spirited.
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by Apocryphon on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:04PM (#18463304)
Not everyone wants to min/max their life, despite what tech striver lifehacker culture wants you to believe.
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by ionised on Friday November 16, 2018 @06:06AM (#18467945)
Assuming that money is all you give a shit about. That seems like an empty life to me.
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by IC4RUS on Thursday November 15, 2018 @06:45PM (#18464614)
You're making the assumption that all smart students would want to go and make money (if smart is even a good proxy for skills among college grads).

Some are motivated by other considerations, such as impact of work and work/life balance.

Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by saagarjha on Thursday November 15, 2018 @05:48PM (#18464216)
People can want things other than money, like the satisfaction that their work is going towards doing something positive for the world.
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by PascLeRasc on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:47PM (#18463726)
What do you think you'll be remembered for after you pass?
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by icedchai on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:55PM (#18463810)
Ask my 3 adopted children.
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by saagarjha on Thursday November 15, 2018 @05:50PM (#18464226)
I hope you don’t consider your children to be some twisted karmic balance for working at Facebook.
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by icedchai on Thursday November 15, 2018 @08:24PM (#18465374)
Like I said, I never worked at Facebook. I only bought the stock!
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by ionised on Friday November 16, 2018 @06:06AM (#18467947)
So you've financially supported Facebook. I don't see how that's much different.
Re:‘I Don’t Really Want to Work for Facebook.’ Say Some Comp... by icedchai on Friday November 16, 2018 @09:35AM (#18468972)
Not directly. Since I didn't buy IPO shares, Facebook never got my money, though other investors did when they sold.