Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud

Re:Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud by ghayes on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @05:20PM (#18454687)

I would add that AWS seems to moth-ball projects, where Google would officially announce an end-of-life. For example, I strongly regretted using AWS OpsWorks after I realized the only priority for AWS seemed to be keeping it running under SLA.

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Re:Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud by Pxtl on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @05:29PM (#18454769)

If we're going to talk about "mothball without formally announcing deprecation" Microsoft is pretty awful for that too. There are so many zombie libraries and frameworks and tools in the Microsoft family, and they never have the decency to say "stop using that". Even windows.forms was default in visual studio until like 2013 or so.

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Re:Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud by thrower123 on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @05:42PM (#18454884)

I'm convinced that as long as there is a Windows operating system based on the Win32 API, WinForms cannot die.

It's still the nicest and most productive way to build GUI apps I've seen. Maybe not the prettiest, but it just works.

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Re:Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud by ygra on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @05:59PM (#18455033)

You should definitely give WPF a try. At least for me Windows Forms is way less productive and nice.

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Re:Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud by momofarm on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @08:08PM (#18455991)

ever try QT or popular CEF based (actually, web-based) solution?

actually, I'm wondering at current moment, what's the choice of framework / OS to make a productive GUI?

or just fire those claimed-designer guy (probally your boss) let engineer do there job?

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Re:Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud by thrower123 on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @08:36PM (#18456155)

Front-end web development of all stripes can burn in a fire, in my opinion; it's got the complication bug, and there's no cure. Unfortunately that's not going to happen, because worse is better, so here we are.

QT looks interesting, if I ever had to care about supporting Linux, but that's not my world.

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Re:Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud by momofarm on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @10:41PM (#18456693)

or how about let's go retro for all, try use command line / ncurse!

(.....And of course get cursed by your manager and boss)

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Re:Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud by scarface74 on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @05:47PM (#18454925)

Not only will it not die, they are porting it over to .Net Core - Windows only.

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Re:Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud by benaadams on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @08:23PM (#18456081)

> Even windows.forms was default in visual studio until like 2013 or so.

They are also bringing WinForms and WPF forward to work on .NET Core 3.0; and its still supported https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/dotnet/2018/10/04/update-on...

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Re:Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud by TomMarius on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @05:41PM (#18454875)

Windows Forms were also the only sensible option until at least 2014. Only after 2014 Microsoft has fully commited to one solution, before that it was very wild.

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Re:Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud by thrower123 on Wednesday November 14, 2018 @08:07PM (#18455982)

What is that solution? You're not talking about UWP, in it's myriad and shifting incarnations, are you?

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Re:Google May Have to Get Used to Third Place in the Cloud by TomMarius on Thursday November 15, 2018 @04:22AM (#18457970)

To be honest I don't have much insight anymore, I left the .NET space around 2015 for these exact reasons.

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