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Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by ravenstine on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @01:27PM (#18443364)
> First, I think I should be paid based on the value I bring to a company, not my location.

If it's wrong(and illegal) to pay people differently based on their race or gender, I can't see how it should be alright to pay people differently based on their cost of living. There ought to be a movement to outlaw this practice.

EDIT: Before you reply, note that I no longer think my argument is good.

Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by koolba on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @01:36PM (#18443456)
> If it's wrong(and illegal) to pay people differently based on their race or gender, I can't see how it should be alright to pay people differently based on their cost of living.

It makes no sense to equate location with immutable characteristics like race or gender. People can move to a new city.

> There ought to be a movement to outlaw this practice.

State and municipal minimum wage laws would be neutered by such a law.

Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by a_imho on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @02:06PM (#18443804)
it's wrong(and illegal) to pay people differently based on their race or gender

It was not always the case though. Good luck convincing people with moral arguments when it goes against their financial interests. Even cutting away the PR bs would be a major win.

https://elsajohansson.wordpress.com/2017/09/13/what-does-a-w...

Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by dragonwriter on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @01:37PM (#18443471)
> I can't see how it should be alright to pay people differently based on their cost of living.

Insofar as local CoL correlates with race and potentially other protected characteristics (religion seems likely, for instance), there's a pretty good “disparate impact” argument that it would be presumptively illegal if challenged under US federal anti-discrimination law.

Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by chrisco255 on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @01:31PM (#18443404)
Are you kidding me? No one ever said "all markets are created equal". There is a very real difference in cost of living and local economies and competitive opportunities for employees in different markets. There's nothing you can do to fix that. This is where "equality of opportunity" and "equality of outcome" diverge.
Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by Matticus_Rex on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @01:59PM (#18443721)
As someone who works remotely from a low COL area, please do not outlaw this practice. It's the reason remote workers like me are extremely competitive, and if you outlaw this practice on my behalf, I will be in a worse position.
Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by ravenstine on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @02:05PM (#18443796)
> It's the reason remote workers like me are extremely competitive

Do you mean that you're able to compete because your location(hence, your salary) makes you a better value than someone who lives in an expensive region? That makes sense to me. Perhaps my viewpoint wasn't very thought out.

> As someone who works remotely from a low COL area, please do not outlaw this practice.

I have neither the power nor the desire. :)

Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by Matticus_Rex on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @02:50PM (#18444256)
> Do you mean that you're able to compete because your location(hence, your salary) makes you a better value than someone who lives in an expensive region?

Exactly.

Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by pc86 on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @02:25PM (#18444008)
Probably because geographic location is not an intrinsic, fixed part of who are you, and is not a protected class either.
Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by ravenstine on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @02:34PM (#18444092)
If race was something people could change at will, would you be opposed to racism?
Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by sincerely on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @02:47PM (#18444221)
No, why would you? It would probably be seen as somewhat rude but harmless at worst, similar to e.g. making fun of Rick and Morty fans or making fun of people who dress like it’s still 1969.
Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by ravenstine on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @03:35PM (#18444649)
> No, why would you?

I would because it's discriminating someone by their identity and not necessarily their merits. By your reasoning, does is it only rude for Christian employers to discriminate against Muslims, for example? Someone can declare themselves to be of a religion they don't actually believe, but that doesn't mean that we should accept a society that fractures itself based on arbitrary lines of identity. Would you want to live in a society where you have a public race, a public religion, and a public gender while being intimidated to hiding your private identity for the sake of employment or so much as eating at a restaurant? (assuming one could change those things at will)

Perhaps there shouldn't be specific protected classes, but I do not agree that the mutability of a person's traits should open them up to systematic discrimination.

Being a Rick and Morty fan or dressing unfashionably are generally not considered valid identities by most people, although I'm sure many who have such interests would say those things represent their identity.

Anyway, I'm sorry for dragging race issues into a thread about GitLab. xD

Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by pc86 on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @02:42PM (#18444180)
If it could be changed freely at will I would be against it being a protected class.
Re:GitLab Made $10.5M in Revenue with Every Employee Working... by mruts on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @03:38PM (#18444668)
Maybe it’s not wrong to pay based on race or gender