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Re:Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for Ne... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @12:26PM (#18442751)
> I am super disappointed that they chose Long Island City

Edward Glaeser's research on the economic and social benefits from density, summarized in Triumph of the City [1] and referenced in this guy's videos [2][3], is worth reviewing. Long story short, agglomeration breeds efficiencies which lead to further agglomeration. New York can uniquely offer things other cities can't because of its density. A few thousand people moving to Newark (assuming they're willing to move to Newark) won't bring those benefits there.

Over centuries, despite population growth and political upheavals, the relative size of cities in almost every geographic region is remarkably stable. That hints at deeper mechanisms which can't be unseated by something as small as Amazon moving.

Better policy: give people in Newark the support they need to move to wherever they like, whether that still be in Newark or somewhere else.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13/books/review/Silver-t.htm...

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PWWtqfwacQ

[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvAvHjYoLUU

Re:Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for Ne... by schnevets on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @12:59PM (#18443095)
Triumph of the City sounds like something right up my alley. I'll have to add it to my reading list. Thanks
Re:Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for Ne... by dionidium on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @03:43PM (#18444703)
I've read a handful of books on this subject -- it's a popular one, right now -- and Triumph of the City is my favorite so far.
Re:Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for Ne... by claydavisss on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @01:11PM (#18443206)
If this were necessarily true - that all industries would naturally gravitate to the regions of highest density - then why is so much of the banking industry now in North Carolina?
Re:Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for Ne... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @01:46PM (#18443578)
> all industries would naturally gravitate to the regions of highest density

I used a bit of shorthand, above, in saying "the relative size of cities in almost every geographic region is remarkably stable." Let me expand on "geographic region," because it reveals the tension that keeps the world from collapsing into Chongqing [1].

The size of a "geographic region" for this purpose is best defined as the distance the average economically-productive person can commute in a day. Back when people walked, towns tended to be about 10 miles apart. As transport technology improved, Manhattan ate its neighboring boroughs. It is now consuming Northern New Jersey and Connecticut. Barring a quantum leap in transportation tech, Charlotte is safe.

(On the seeds for dispersion: Certain economic activities, like mining and agriculture, occur somewhat independently of population centers. You go where the mineral veins and fertile land are. The fruits of those activities navigate the transportation geography, navigable waterways, flat areas across which rail lines can network and natural harbors, their wealth concentrating at the hubs. Thus, a fundamental industrial tension between distributed economic activity and the concentrating effects of transportation emerges.

In the modern world, those industrial distribution factors remain. Added to them are activities that are cheaper away from population centers, e.g. large-scale manufacturing and nuclear-power generation. Nevertheless, technology so far appears to be increasing the concentrating factor faster than the dispersion term by making (a) the distributed economic activities less labor-intensive and (b) increasing profits to those organizing our social structures-whether in finance, logistics or government–who benefit from the chance encounters proximity promotes.)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_cities

Re:Amazon Selects New York City and Northern Virginia for Ne... by DerekL on Tuesday November 13, 2018 @07:05PM (#18446093)
A big reason banks are located in North Carolina is that they had laws that were friendly to large banks:

> But North Carolina was among the first states to allow banks to operate multiple branches within a state's borders.

https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/bank_notes/2012/0...