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Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia by yholio on Saturday November 10, 2018 @05:04PM (#18423767)
The trouble with cash is that you cannot really control high-school dropouts to charge $10 for a $2 beer without skimming a bit on the side. Hence this whole "here's some fake money that only works here" BS.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia by paulie_a on Saturday November 10, 2018 @05:29PM (#18423870)
Just do an incorrect inventory. Some venues let workers do inventory and reporting. They are charging for the cup itself and that is how they determine sales. If a stack of cups disappears, there is no reconciliation.

Music venues have some interesting procedures, Alpine valley allows under an oz of weed to be brought in. They have college girls carrying backpacks with 40k in cash. There is an off duty cop directly behind though.

Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia by jstanley on Saturday November 10, 2018 @06:28PM (#18424082)
Can you elaborate on that second paragraph? I don't understand how those things are related to each other.

Why do they allow weed to be brought in? Why do they have college girls carrying cash in a backpack? Why so much cash? Why is there an off-duty cop following her around? Isn't an off-duty cop just an ordinary member of the public? If a cop is required shouldn't it be an on-duty cop? If it's somehow a trap to catch drug dealers, how is it meant to work? Why do they limit the amount of weed? And why are they trying to catch drug dealers at all?

Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia by fotbr on Sunday November 11, 2018 @12:32AM (#18425151)
Back in HS I worked at an amusement park for a summer. On a busy night, if I closed the booth, I'd be walking out the park's employee exit around 2am, through a somewhat busy and not-very-well-lit public area of the parking lot, and across to the admin offices with 30k+ in a plastic bag. That was not an uncommon amount for most of the non-token booths, and having 16-18 year old kids carrying it out of the park to the admin building was also common, since that was most of the park's work force.

I'd guess the "college girls carrying 40k in cash in a backpack" were employees carrying cash out from whatever business/booth they were running and taking it to their bank or head office or whatnot, and the "off-duty" cop behind them was there acting as a security guard; since that's a somewhat common side gig for cops, and in may places, they're still given all the power and authority an "on duty" cop has.

I don't get the connection to the weed (legal or otherwise, it has never been an interest of mine), but perhaps it explains the other bit.

Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia by paulie_a on Sunday November 11, 2018 @01:25AM (#18425254)
Sorry the weed bit was unrelated. More of an example of the weird world of a music venue. They basically didn't care if it was for personal use, but they didn't want people that were clearly going to deal. It wasnt in the employee handbook, just kind of an unspoken rule.

As for the second part, off duty cops would moonlight as security guards. And the college girls could blend in. With the large crowds it was a way keep a low profile for making cash pickups from the dozen different beer/food stations. It's pretty smart. You would never think twice.

Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia by Spooky23 on Saturday November 10, 2018 @05:33PM (#18423888)
Pretty trivial to solve... sell drink tickets.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia by kalleboo on Saturday November 10, 2018 @11:20PM (#18425016)
Isn't that just replacing cash with monopoly money?
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia by Spooky23 on Saturday November 10, 2018 @11:31PM (#18425045)
No, you have the stoners pour beer and don’t let them handle cash. The people who handle cash don’t handle beer.

It’s a fairly typical internal control for that type of operation.

Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia by masonic on Sunday November 11, 2018 @03:51AM (#18425537)
Generally, the purpose of the drink-ticket model is to ensure accurate sales reporting so that the festival or venue gets its full "cut".
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia by brownbat on Saturday November 10, 2018 @07:17PM (#18424279)
Killer feature for me is that the same amount of physical mass can hold any amount of value.

Spending some cash sometimes increases the complexity of my pocket considerably, which is fine in practice and all, but just feels wrong to part of my brain.