Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by patd on Saturday November 10, 2018 @03:05PM
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Aren't you asking a bit too much info for a simple SEPA transfer ? The IBAN should be all you really need, the rest are nice to have.
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Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by kristofferR on Saturday November 10, 2018 @03:14PM
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I've heard that too, but my bank (Sbanken, normally a good user friendly bank) wouldn't let the payment go through without all the fields filled out.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by dao- on Saturday November 10, 2018 @04:39PM
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IBAN == bank account number with the bank info baked in, although I think for foreign transfers you might still have to provide the bank code separately.
I've never been asked for an address when doing a wire transfer.
From what I've heard banks stopped validating the name field a long time ago and you can enter whatever you want.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by AnssiH on Saturday November 10, 2018 @05:25PM
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My Finnish bank has always (10+ years) asked for the full recipient address when I've entered a foreign IBAN (even within EU). Just tested that it still does.
I don't think they validate it, though, IIRC I've gotten away with simply putting in "Germany".
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by jnurmine on Sunday November 11, 2018 @11:18AM
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Did you use "foreign payment" or just pay as if it were a domestic payment?
I don't remember seeing issues in SEPA area, if I just use the IBAN and pay like any normal payment. If I am specifically doing a "foreign payment" some extra fields need to be filled in. That is how I recall the process, last time was 1 year ago though.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by AnssiH on Sunday November 11, 2018 @02:34PM
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No, I used the normal "domestic" payment form. It detects a foreign IBAN and then dynamically adds the extra mandatory address fields on the page.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by rocqua on Saturday November 10, 2018 @05:00PM
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Here in NL, the name field recently has gotten even stronger validation. I think this coincided with a system where minor spelling mistakes are corrected by a suggested "Did you mean ...?"
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by ptaipale on Saturday November 10, 2018 @04:53PM
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I suppose that would be because of EU regulations against money laundering.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by iknowstuff on Saturday November 10, 2018 @06:38PM
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Definitely not, because a few of my banks allow it without a problem.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by icebraining on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:21PM
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Same here, I did a bunch of SEPA transfers between two EU countries last year, and all they asked was for the IBAN.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by PeterisP on Saturday November 10, 2018 @08:28PM
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Sweden is not in eurozone, so SEPA credit transfers have limited usage there; the full SEPA process works only for EUR-to-EUR transfers.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by Freak_NL on Sunday November 11, 2018 @04:21AM
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It's also free for €-to-€ transfers. I paid for accommodation in Switzerland this summer from the Netherlands, and was glad that the proprietor didn't mind me transferring the deposit in Euros instead of Francs; the cost of sending an amount in Francs to Switzerland is quite high!
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by StavrosK on Saturday November 10, 2018 @03:07PM
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True, but that doesn't weaken his point.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by masklinn on Saturday November 10, 2018 @03:15PM
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It removes the entire second paragraph. It takes about 5mn to do a SEPA bank transfer: open banking client, open transfers, create new transfer, enter destination IBAN, enter amount, optionally set a data & some text, confirm.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by StavrosK on Saturday November 10, 2018 @03:46PM
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Which is much longer than handing someone a 10 euro note.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by icebraining on Saturday November 10, 2018 @10:28PM
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That would be of limited value to someone in Sweden, which uses the krona. Automatic currency conversion is one of the advantages of electronic payments over cash.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by gambiting on Saturday November 10, 2018 @04:40PM
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And then you wait 3 days for the money to actually arrive. I frequently send money between EU countries and the speed of transaction is abysmal unless you want to transfer to be denominated in Euro which means that if you're sending money between two non-euro currencies you're losing money twice.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by patrickmcnamara on Saturday November 10, 2018 @05:28PM
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SEPA is for euro-denominated bank accounts. That's what the E is.
Re:Sweden's cashless society is no longer a utopia
by gambiting on Saturday November 10, 2018 @05:32PM
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You can send a sepa transfer out of a non-euro denominated bank account to another non-euro denominated account, but it will get converted to Euro first. That's why I said you get charged twice - once at origin and again at the destination. And you might want to do that if you want the speed of a SEPA transfer - regular inter-bank transfers between different EU countries still take days to process.