Cloud Computing Without Containers

Re:Cloud Computing Without Containers by molszanski on Saturday November 10, 2018 @07:26AM (#18421063)

I think Joyent has pushed the limits of what is possible in that area with their tech. From the dev/ops point of view I run docker container / images and they "translate" docker api calls into smartos/opensolaris/illumos zones. NB I don't know much about those OSs/projects.

Docker has a nice and evolving API and OS zones provide an amazing core technology.

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Re:Cloud Computing Without Containers by cyphar on Saturday November 10, 2018 @08:50AM (#18421312)

Right, but that's because they don't actually run Docker. They have a much better designed manager process that creates LX-branded zones.

My point was that "Linux containers" (so tools like LXC, or runc, or others) are more than capable of being used in this way. Docker has a variety of architectural and other problems that result in it not being as friendly to this kind of use case.

So when you run "docker containers" on Joyent they just untar the image and run it in an LX-branded zone. There is no Go or other problems and they sure as hell don't run Docker as root in their control plane.

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Re:Cloud Computing Without Containers by molszanski on Saturday November 10, 2018 @01:48PM (#18422796)

Yeah yeah, sorry for not being clear. I understand that they don't use docker and just make their api to quack like a docker.

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