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Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by iwasakabukiman on Friday November 09, 2018 @08:52AM (#18414296)
My understanding is that Apple pairs the individual hard drive in any given unit with the "Secure Enclave" that they use for TouchID within the same unit. So they are paired and one cannot be replaced without also replacing the other.

Not excusing it, just explaining.

Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by adgasf on Friday November 09, 2018 @09:00AM (#18414340)
Ideal solution would be small secure enclave storage for keys then user-upgradable main storage encrypted with those keys.
Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by xienze on Friday November 09, 2018 @09:05AM (#18414373)
Of course, but then how could you charge 2-3x for storage upgrades that way?

Edit: wow, really struck a nerve there. I take it back, Apple is in no way motivated to massively overcharge for storage upgrades.

Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by TremendousJudge on Friday November 09, 2018 @09:11AM (#18414413)
Console manufacturers never seem to have any issue with it, and hard drives are user upgradable
Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by PhasmaFelis on Friday November 09, 2018 @10:09AM (#18414900)
Has that changed in the current generation? On the XBox 360, you could physically stick any standard IDE drive in the drive bay, but the console wouldn't mount it unless it had a hidden file verifying that it was purchased from Microsoft, which charged well over market value.
Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by cvwright on Friday November 09, 2018 @12:19PM (#18416035)
IIRC they were also using a clever (sneaky) application of copyright law to enforce this. They used a few special sectors on the disk to store an image to which they hold the copyright. The Xbox checks to make sure the image is there in the right spot before it will use the drive. So you can't pass off another drive as valid without violating their copyright.
Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by LgWoodenBadger on Friday November 09, 2018 @07:44PM (#18419224)
That was tried with early video game consoles, and did not succeed legally.
Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by mbel on Friday November 09, 2018 @09:39AM (#18414642)
Console manufacturers have a different revenue model. They get money from games sold for their platform, this allows them to sell hardware with low margin or even at loss.
Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by SmellyGeekBoy on Friday November 09, 2018 @09:53AM (#18414756)
Is this not the idea behind the Mac App Store?
Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by mcphage on Friday November 09, 2018 @10:05AM (#18414871)
Not really, no. Most of Apple's money comes from hardware sales.
Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by giobox on Friday November 09, 2018 @10:50AM (#18415265)
“Services”, as apple like to call the heading they report App Store revenue under, is largely the fastest growing thing at Apple. While historically it’s true Apple has made its money on high margin hardware, the future growth seems much, much more reliant on services. I wouldn’t be so quick to discount the increasing importance of service revenue such as the app stores to Apple.
Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by tinus_hn on Friday November 09, 2018 @09:26AM (#18414537)
There is no Touch ID on the Mac Mini.
Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by bengale on Friday November 09, 2018 @09:28AM (#18414552)
It still has a T2 chip.
Re:Mac mini Late 2018 Teardown by OskarS on Friday November 09, 2018 @09:54AM (#18414761)
That does make more sense than the size thing. Still wish Apple didn't do it, but that's a better excuse.