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Re:Hackers targeting election networks across country prior ... by zaroth on Monday November 05, 2018 @07:20PM (#18387250)
Not meta enough. The lesson from 2016 is a bullshit social media campaign in Russia is enough to whip US media into spending billions of dollars of air time sowing doubt and confusion about an election result.

Not only were no votes changed by anything Russia did, it is highly dubious that any opinions were changed by what Russia did.

Trolls on the Internet are not, in fact, the most persuasive advertising force by orders of magnitude that the world has ever seen.

Re:Hackers targeting election networks across country prior ... by akiselev on Monday November 05, 2018 @09:43PM (#18387910)
I'm sorry to break it to you, but you've been living under a rock: https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

Russian operations stretched far beyond a social media campaign.

Re:Hackers targeting election networks across country prior ... by shard972 on Monday November 05, 2018 @10:14PM (#18388033)
So some russians conspired to go on a phishing expedition and ended up finding that hillary clinton broke the law and tried to cover it up?

Where does it show the votes that were changed?

Re:Hackers targeting election networks across country prior ... by hannasanarion on Monday November 05, 2018 @10:39PM (#18388147)
Where is the comment in this thread that said votes were changed?

If you want to punch straw men, go find yourself a farm.

Re:Hackers targeting election networks across country prior ... by dragonwriter on Monday November 05, 2018 @10:20PM (#18388062)
> Not only were no votes changed by anything Russia did, it is highly dubious that any opinions were changed by what Russia did.

It's clear that concrete actions were manipulated by the Russian campaign, and that false ideas spread by it gained currency. It is pretty clear that it affected opinion, belief, and action, even if not in a way which changed partisan preferences.

> Trolls on the Internet are not, in fact, the most persuasive advertising force by orders of magnitude that the world has ever seen.

Probably not; lots of low budget groups leveraging current events are quite efficient compared to major campaigns, and that's without carefully crafting propaganda without concern for truth and with freedom to misrepresent origin; Russia’s operation may be much more cost effective than major campaigns especially if you consider just the known as spend and not other supporting costs, but that's not unusual.

Re:Hackers targeting election networks across country prior ... by orf on Monday November 05, 2018 @09:44PM (#18387912)
Knowing that the Fancybear APT group broke into the DNC and released a lot of information that clearly swayed people's opinions, I can't think what you said was true.
Re:Hackers targeting election networks across country prior ... by nameistaken on Monday November 05, 2018 @07:35PM (#18387334)
Changed directly? No, well maybe no. I would consider the possibility that people otherwise apathetic or independent ran to the nearest ideological corner and stayed there evidence be damned.

A person who might be open to ideas, closed off pulling the lever for someone based on out right lies. Someone who might have stayed home or voted for someone else.

I think that's a real possibility.

Re:Hackers targeting election networks across country prior ... by shard972 on Monday November 05, 2018 @10:15PM (#18388037)
So what about the europeans and Australians who peddled lies on their social media accounts? Has the FBI managed to track down any of those yet?