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Re:How hustle culture took over advertising by phillc73 on Monday November 05, 2018 @11:00AM (#18383324)
> if you haven't built up your own security through wealth, you're [going to be] fucked.

Another approach is to build security through self sufficiency and community based initiatives. For example, growing your own food wherever possible, or community gardens on common land.

There is a long list of examples and ideas where future security, defining that as decent quality of life, health and education, doesn't need to be based around monetary wealth.

Re:How hustle culture took over advertising by kazinator on Monday November 05, 2018 @11:23AM (#18383544)
Modern society relies on mass scale agriculture which cannot be replaced by community gardens. If everyone had to meet their nutritional needs with a community garden that is within walking distance of where they live, we basically couldn't have cities.

Growing your own food is work; where is the retirement plan? What if you're not able? Even if you are, many people want to do things other than farming when they retire.

It feels like the ultimate defeat: what have I achieved in this lifetime of work, when I'm reduced to land-to-mouth existence, like an ancestor tens of thousands of years before me? Where is the progress?

Theft is a problem in community gardens. If you just grow enough to sustain yourself and someone steals your produce, you're back to fucked.

Re:How hustle culture took over advertising by jniedrauer on Monday November 05, 2018 @02:06PM (#18384960)
I really don't think this is viable. I grew up on a mostly self sustaining farm. I've seen how inefficient and unpredictable it is at small scale.

There are simply too many of us to revert back to an agrarian society. We have to create food at a very large scale. Which means we have to become better at sharing it.

Re:How hustle culture took over advertising by noonespecial on Monday November 05, 2018 @04:23PM (#18386097)
It doesn't matter how many cucumbers you can grow in your back yard or how good you are at fixing your 69 Ford when the heart meds you need to live are $600/month.

Like it or not we're all in it together and we're doing kind of a sucky job of it right now.

Re:How hustle culture took over advertising by jimbokun on Monday November 05, 2018 @02:37PM (#18385214)
Almost no one in the US has a problem with getting enough food. Maybe substandard nutrition, but no one is going to starve.

Healthcare and education are areas where a common option could make a major difference in people's lives. But I think the "community" has to be pretty large to make a meaningful impact.

Re:How hustle culture took over advertising by Hydraulix989 on Monday November 05, 2018 @02:53PM (#18385364)
This may be true in socially progressive areas such as Silicon Valley, but it is far from the case anywhere else.

Hunger is further down Maslow's pyramid. You can't even begin thinking about things like education until you are able to adequately eat.

http://map.feedingamerica.org

Re:How hustle culture took over advertising by robhunter on Monday November 05, 2018 @04:45PM (#18386266)
About 15% of the US population is "food-insecure" as defined by the USFDA. That's 40,000,000 people.
Re:How hustle culture took over advertising by Celarnor on Monday November 05, 2018 @07:05PM (#18387142)
Since the recession, the US' food insecurity numbers still haven't recovered to their pre-recession values. A disturbingly non-zero number of families have no idea when their next meal will be or where it is coming from.