Re:Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry A...
by pcwalton on Sunday November 04, 2018 @12:26PM
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"GamerGate" was "a thing" because of disgusting, and deeply held, misogyny within the gaming community. The reason why every legitimate press outlet covered "GamerGate" from the standpoint of a harassment campaign against women is because that is precisely what it was.
Re:Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry A...
by tombert on Monday November 05, 2018 @09:58AM
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I'll admit I can't really atone for my sins on this, but I genuinely thought GamerGate was about journalistic integrity in gaming journalism. I didn't take place in any of the elaborate social-media campaigns, but I did use the term in some kind of naive attempt at "fighting the SJWs".
I realize how stupid I was at that point, and while I don't think I went "full-on-mysogyny", I was definitely holding a somewhat dated viewpoint which I regret now.
Re:Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry A...
by slothtrop on Sunday November 04, 2018 @01:34PM
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Seems it had more than one type of actor. Some proponents wanted to naively believe the movement didn't represent misogyny if they themselves weren't, but so much of that was perpetrated on behalf of GG. The right thing to do would have had to been splintering and loudly decrying the death threats and misogyny, but of course, the mob didn't do that and they've themselves to blame. Mind you I haven't read much about that nonsense. It was so mundane.
Re:Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry A...
by malvosenior on Sunday November 04, 2018 @12:27PM
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As I said:
"In the end, people who don't have time to research the topic themselves, believe the narrative they're told thus empowering the journalists to continue to attack their audience."
Re:Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry A...
by manicdee on Sunday November 04, 2018 @02:34PM
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Perhaps you need to research the topic yourself.
Re:Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry A...
by malvosenior on Sunday November 04, 2018 @02:39PM
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I've been following it for a long time. Just as in this situation, the journalists created Gamergate by attacking their audience in a coordinated fashion.
Re:Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry A...
by creddit on Sunday November 04, 2018 @12:35PM
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Saying "You can see it here for yourself" and then posting a single JPG of hand selected screenshots that show your point is not even remotely reasonable evidence of your black and white claim.
Re:Blizzard Says It Wasn't Expecting Fans to Be This Angry A...
by malvosenior on Sunday November 04, 2018 @12:39PM
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How so? It's literally exactly what I said. Game journalists calling the gamers and people upset about this "toxic", "F* this guy"...
They are definitely not representing the consumer here.
Gamers: "Is this a joke? We don't want mobile Diablo"
Game Press: "Gamers are whiny, entitled, toxic babies"
You can see it here for yourself: https://i.redd.it/6mgpttba94w11.jpg
It's been this way for a long time and was the reason Gamergate became a thing (see "Gamers are Dead"). The worst part is that because the journalists in the game industry are friends with the journalists in the mainstream media, their take on "toxic" gamers gets spread beyond the industry and their own actions never get called out aside from grassroots movements.
In the end, people who don't have time to research the topic themselves, believe the narrative they're told thus empowering the journalists to continue to attack their audience.