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Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by writepub on Saturday November 03, 2018 @08:41PM (#18373334)
I'm sympathetic towards the ISP and the readers of academic journals.

However, this is also a gross violation of net neutrality. The ISP's power over a website is evident from their ability to block a website they have differences with. This is both encouraging (that the ISP cares) & frightening (that the ISP has total control)

Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by bigiain on Saturday November 03, 2018 @10:31PM (#18373744)
Seems eminently fair and reasonable to me.

Elsever got a court to order a gross violation of net neutrality.

The ISP had no interest or desire to implement blocking of any sort. Once it's hand is forced via legal means, it needs to obtain that capability - and using it with discretion as a protest is a perfect demonstration as to why they should _not_ have that capability.

Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by writepub on Sunday November 04, 2018 @03:04AM (#18374817)
About ideals and philosophies - they only matter when pushed to their limits. Free speech only matters when the said speech is disagreeable, ISP power only matters when the ISP disagrees with a website.

Yes - we all approve of the ISP's action, but this instance was in our favor. Will the next be against? Power begets corruption.

Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by bigiain on Sunday November 04, 2018 @05:33PM (#18378416)
"The next"? How about "one of the previous"???

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/03/07/comcast-xfinity-...

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20080213/133855251.shtml

Banhof's stance is that they do not even want the capability to block websites. This is something I wholeheartedly agree with. It certainly means some speech with which I strongly disagree is protected as well as speech with which I do agree. ISPs should _not_ have this kind of power. Banhof do not want it, but since they're being forced into acquiring and using that capability, using it to protest against it seems eminently reasonable.

Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by stale2002 on Sunday November 04, 2018 @05:58AM (#18375272)
Then perhaps ISPs shouldn't be blocking any websites at all.

Unfortunately the courts have made this impossible though. In order to get net neutrality back, they would have to reverse that court decision that forced websites to be blocked.

Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by kalleboo on Sunday November 04, 2018 @12:06AM (#18374147)
Net Neutrality is less of a concern when you actually have a choice of ISPs. I can choose between around 100 ISPs where I live (going over a shared open-access fiber network) so if one ISP does something nasty it's easy to switch