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Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by jerkstate on Saturday November 03, 2018 @01:31PM (#18371383)
Sounds like a pretty significant violation of net neutrality to be blocking companies that they don't "like" out of spite. Doesn't Sweden have NN laws?
Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by alkonaut on Saturday November 03, 2018 @03:22PM (#18371971)
This is a protest demonstrating exactly how bad blocking is. The message is: so you really want to go down this path?

As such I’m fine with it. For any other purpose - not so much.

Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by drb91 on Saturday November 03, 2018 @01:35PM (#18371406)
This seems to be a different conception of net neutrality than we have in the US where registrars have a right to terminate service at will.
Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by jerkstate on Saturday November 03, 2018 @01:50PM (#18371485)
I just find it ironic that in NN threads here, the prevailing thought is "NN is necessary to prevent censorship!" and then in censorship/deplatforming threads like this one, the prevailing thought is "this is a good thing and actually necessary"
Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by tjoff on Saturday November 03, 2018 @02:17PM (#18371632)
I don't. The isp is forced to censor, so they choose to also censor the entity that abused the system.

The difference is astronomical. The purpose is also to send a signal...

Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by AnthonyMouse on Saturday November 03, 2018 @02:55PM (#18371838)
> I don't. The isp is forced to censor, so they choose to also censor the entity that abused the system.

Exactly. There is a huge difference between wanting to censor your enemies and not wanting to censor anybody but being forced to, and then responding by doing so in a balanced rather than asymmetric way.

It would be best for the ISP not to be blocking anything, but given that is not a permitted option...

Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by drb91 on Saturday November 03, 2018 @03:26PM (#18371992)
I actually haven’t found NN to be framed in terms of censorship at all.

In addition, the version of censorship people find evil is state censorship. I’ve found this to be a relatively easy thing to agree on in western society. In terms of non-state platforms, what would be censorship is both widely used (curation, bowdlerization, protection of identities of anonymous sources, etc) and in certain circumstances desired. My point being: “censorship” is not a useful thing to discuss in the abstract, and crying censorship whenever service is terminated is less useful that discussing the event in concrete terms. I think the uncanny part here is that the perception of DNS is that it is a public space, but it is implemented in the private space. I’m emphatically not sure what the right thing is to do here but I can’t help but feel glee that the weapons capitalists use to enforce control can also be used against them.

Re:Swedish ISP Protests ‘Site Blocking’ by Blocking Rightsho... by ferongr on Saturday November 03, 2018 @02:10PM (#18371601)
People are biased even if they claim to not be.