Re:Intel CPUs impacted by new PortSmash side-channel vulnera...
by jandrese on Friday November 02, 2018 @11:26AM
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Intel's response to this is to cut back on Hyperthreading significantly in the latest generation: https://ark.intel.com/compare/134896,186605,186604
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Re:Intel CPUs impacted by new PortSmash side-channel vulnera...
by vbezhenar on Friday November 02, 2018 @11:37AM
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I don't see it as a response to vulnerabilities, it's just new flavours of market segmentation. They have flagship CPU with HT enabled after all.
Re:Intel CPUs impacted by new PortSmash side-channel vulnera...
by jandrese on Friday November 02, 2018 @01:35PM
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The i9 is their "performance at any cost, even security" chip. It's for people who want/need the absolute fastest chip and damn the torpedoes. It's so far past the optimal point on the price/performance curve that nobody sensible will be buying it unless they have a very specific need.
Re:Intel CPUs impacted by new PortSmash side-channel vulnera...
by keldaris on Friday November 02, 2018 @03:47PM
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I'm no fan of the i9 series at all, but if you have SIMD-heavy workloads (especially anything you're willing to port to AVX-512), those CPUs actually make a lot of sense price/performance wise. It's a fairly specific niche, but not necessarily a tiny one.
Re:Intel CPUs impacted by new PortSmash side-channel vulnera...
by vbezhenar on Friday November 02, 2018 @06:33PM
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It would be suicide to market it in this way. They actually made some security hardware improvements and highlight it. Sure, you could disable hyperthreading and I agree that it might be beneficial for side-channel attack protection, but it's not like Intel is officially accepts that as a valid option. At least I didn't see anything like that.
Re:Intel CPUs impacted by new PortSmash side-channel vulnera...
by Symmetry on Friday November 02, 2018 @02:35PM
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I think that's mostly a market segmentation measure given the timing, though in a sense you're right since it does protect consumers. They do have SMT enabled on most laptop processors, too. I worry that they'll have a hard time getting all they can out of the full width of Haswell and later chips without SMT.