Re:Private messages from 81,000 hacked Facebook accounts for...
by nothrabannosir on Friday November 02, 2018 @10:46AM
(#18363375)
Or in the timing pattern of polling a URL. 1 sec pause: 0, 2 sec pause: 1.
This is a losing battle. Don't engage.
Re:Private messages from 81,000 hacked Facebook accounts for...
by saulrh on Friday November 02, 2018 @04:37PM
(#18366517)
I disagree. So does the TCSEC ("Orange Book"), which argues that covert channels may be effectively impossible to eliminate but that they should still be reduced, then lays out guidelines on how far they should be reduced for secure computing platforms. Specifically:
In any multilevel computer system there are a number of
relatively low-bandwidth covert channels whose existence is
deeply ingrained in the system design. Faced with the large
potential cost of reducing the bandwidths of such covert
channels, it is felt that those with maximum bandwidths of
less than one (1) bit per second are acceptable in most
application environments. [...] Therefore, a Trusted
Computing Base should provide, wherever possible, the
capability to audit the use of covert channel mechanisms
with bandwidths that may exceed a rate of one (1) bit in ten
(10) seconds.
I'll admit that this definition is at least a couple decades out of date, but at the same time... the standard for the US's intelligence agencies' secure computing platforms was to not even care about hypothetical covert channels slower than .1 bps. In addition, such channels were required to be auditable, not eliminated; I'm certain that less-secure applications were completely fine shipping with demonstrated covert channels in the bits-per-second range. And that's for systems that deal with things like the IDs of HUMINT assets or technical specifications for weapons systems; here on HN we're talking about browser fingerprints and location data.All of this is to say: If I could limit covert channels from webpages or mobile phone apps to 10 bps I'd do it in a heartbeat. Perfect is the enemy of good enough.
Re:Private messages from 81,000 hacked Facebook accounts for...
by domoritz on Friday November 02, 2018 @11:13AM
(#18363578)
Any kind of enforcement would already be a huge benefit over the status quo and make things too annoying for at least half of the attackers.
Re:Private messages from 81,000 hacked Facebook accounts for...
by antidesitter on Friday November 02, 2018 @11:15AM
(#18363593)
What is a losing battle? Security?
Re:Private messages from 81,000 hacked Facebook accounts for...
by TeMPOraL on Friday November 02, 2018 @12:36PM
(#18364427)
"Security" through throwing homework-level challenges at extension programmers? Yes.
Re:Private messages from 81,000 hacked Facebook accounts for...
by admiralEyebrows on Friday November 02, 2018 @12:34PM
(#18364412)
Extensions. I agree with Santosh83, no extensions except ublock.
Re:Private messages from 81,000 hacked Facebook accounts for...
by zentiggr on Friday November 02, 2018 @02:39PM
(#18365538)
I'd be fine with uMatrix as basic browser feature. Barely use anything else ever.
Re:Private messages from 81,000 hacked Facebook accounts for...
by monsieurbanana on Friday November 02, 2018 @11:42AM
(#18363811)
I mean...
Re:Private messages from 81,000 hacked Facebook accounts for...
by petagonoral on Saturday November 03, 2018 @10:42AM
(#18370395)
How many extensions need to send unique outbound data?
Prior to publishing in store, browser maker can look at schema and query whether it makes sense in context of extension.
If the submitted schema is not tight enough, it can be rejected until it's tighter.
It is not that hard to leak out arbitrary info in strings or even numbers