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Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by agumonkey on Thursday November 01, 2018 @08:21AM (#18353233)
I keep asking. How to organize at the middle layer ? Not govt or nation wide, but smaller areas. I believe starting small reactions in parallel could accelerate things. Otherwise it's still talk.
Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by ForHackernews on Thursday November 01, 2018 @08:23AM (#18353241)
State level politics might help. California is trying to be carbon-neutral by 2045: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-california-ac...
Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by agumonkey on Thursday November 01, 2018 @08:42AM (#18353333)
Even that is too large IMO. At least in my view of things, I'm cool with states working on this. I wanted something like communities. I'll see.
Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by Nasrudith on Thursday November 01, 2018 @09:34AM (#18353701)
I'm curious why the small community emphasis?
Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by agumonkey on Thursday November 01, 2018 @09:49AM (#18353827)
half subjective reasons:

- I'm bored by the system and jobless, and this would be an interesting thing to try as an activity for me

- larger efforts are slow

- I have this vision that bootstrapping small group efforts my heat up the system to help larger efforts.

I may add that large changes are bouncing back and forth between 'people are responsible' and 'industries are responsible' without going much anywhere. And I'm fairly convinced that most of people's behavior is mostly pleasurable habits (and mostly individual at that) and that people can't really change because alone and inexperienced in a change makes anything harder; while in a group, with a few that have skills (nutrition, mechanics, etc) can turn this into a pleasant new habit.

Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by Nasrudith on Friday November 02, 2018 @08:59AM (#18362642)
Ah so more for personal reasons fair enough. Digital efforts could scale in a nonlocal way with teaching theoretically but people would need to take interest although it could help if they say see an easy to make hummus as a healthy and delicious dinner to get them to natrually start eating less meat not as an end goal but because of legitimate preference.
Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by agumonkey on Friday November 02, 2018 @01:07PM (#18364747)
Oh the digital part is mostly a few bits of calling and logging, I don't want any sophisticated tooling, the goal is gathering and enjoying learning/doing together. I don't know what to cook off humus, but surely by having great new dinners, hobbies that are fun, eco friendly is the goal. Basically low on resources, high on pleasantness.
Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by gibsons77 on Thursday November 01, 2018 @09:42AM (#18353770)
I'm sorry to be that guy, but I really think blockchain offers solutions to these types of coordination problems. For example, Aragon just launched their mainnet today. They made a platform that allows distributed collaboration between groups of people. I think this could potentially reduce bureaucracy and reduce the time between idea and implementation. I have zero stake in Aragon btw, I just find it fascinating and it gives me some hope that humans can come together to positively affect the world.
Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by archagon on Thursday November 01, 2018 @10:49AM (#18354386)
Crypto could also become one of the biggest contributors to climate change, since it’s literally just wasting as much energy as possible to make money.
Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by gibsons77 on Friday November 02, 2018 @01:25PM (#18364915)
The monetary system itself is a big contributor or climate change. Kings used to require empires in order to protect their gold stores. I think securing the longest PoW (or PoS) chain is a very good use of resources, as it's tantamount to a king protecting his gold.
Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by agumonkey on Thursday November 01, 2018 @11:06AM (#18354587)
yeah, I don't buy the future of crypto. Too many cons (energy and other) not enough pros.
Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by hamiltonkibbe on Thursday November 01, 2018 @10:45AM (#18354332)
How does Aragon's effectiveness for this compare to e.g a Google Docs spreadsheet?
Re:Oceans 'soaking up more heat than estimated' by gibsons77 on Friday November 02, 2018 @01:33PM (#18364975)
It can handle economic decisions within an organization using democracy, or multi-sigs to a few trusted individuals. It's also connected to Web 3.0, so you have all of the benefits of being within the ethereum ecosystem.