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Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by duxup on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @02:07PM (#18347971)
Presumably this is somewhat similar to other native american tribes where there are treaties and legal structures that allow them to make their case under that name / formalized what it means today?
Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by hn_throwaway_99 on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @04:43PM (#18349146)
No, not really. The entire Hawaiian archipelago was annexed as US territory. There was no comparable "nation status" as exists on native American reservations today.
Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by duxup on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @11:15PM (#18351205)
I understand there are no reservations, just wondering if there is some legal status.
Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @03:09PM (#18348443)
The autonomy and sovereignty of continental tribes is severely curtailed by the US claim of plenary authority over them. They are independent nations largely in name only.
Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by duxup on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @03:11PM (#18348454)
I'm not sure that ... has anything to do what I said.
Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by dnautics on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @05:25PM (#18349402)
> They are independent nations largely in name only.

I was under the impression that the "independent nations" concept implied independence from the states. Naturally as the power in the US has shifted away from the states towards the federal government the autonomy and sovereignty of the tribes has decreased.

Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by ceejayoz on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @06:14PM (#18349683)
It's a bit more than that - New York can't ban Ohioans from their territory, but Native American tribes can.

https://www.bia.gov/frequently-asked-questions

> Tribes possess all powers of self-government except those relinquished under treaty with the United States, those that Congress has expressly extinguished, and those that federal courts have ruled are subject to existing federal law or are inconsistent with overriding national policies.

Re:Hawaii Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Building Thirty Me... by duxup on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @11:23PM (#18351230)
At least for those with actual reservations and treaties they are allowed quite a bit of self governance and such. They can make their own laws, form a government as they wish, tax, regulate, decide who is a member and such.

That has not changed at all.

It sounds strange, and it kind of is, but in reality life on a reservation in most cases is rough, few options to make a living, lots of substance abuse, tribal politics can be pretty petty and nasty. I lived near a reservation for a while and the first thing you think "oh man they have this nation inside a nation they could do a lot of things" but really life is rough there.