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Re:The backlash against overtourism by js2 on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @11:25AM (#18337450)
I stayed with my wife and two kids on Venice almost exactly four years ago this month. We avoided the busy spots during the day, and had Venice to ourselves at night. So even at places as busy as Venice, it's still possible to avoid crowds.

We actually found Florence to be busy almost everywhere, even with lots of people still wandering around at night. The Uffizi was the one place that was impossible to enjoy, mostly because of the tour groups. I wish they would limit the number of people in any given room at a time. But, we wandered across to the Museo Galileo and had it to ourselves.

Re:The backlash against overtourism by IkmoIkmo on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @08:16PM (#18342370)
Yup, same experience in Florence. Beautiful city but just couldn't enjoy it. I saw half a dozen other Italian cities and had a great time, Florence was the worst experience and it had little to do with the city and everything to do with the guests.

The one thing that bugs me about museum tours these days is that they all wear in-ear headphones connected to the guide. Which means whereas before you'd mostly have groups of 5 people with one guide, you now have groups of 20 people walking 20 meters behind one guide because distance isn't an issue. Some rooms become unbearable, it's like you take a super busy street market in Mumbai and hang up some paintings and expect people to enjoy the art while navigating through a flood of people.

In a way it helps because you get fewer guides and possibly less shouting. You'd hope this makes things more quiet but it doesn't. It drops the costs of a guide for individuals to next to nothing due to the size of the groups, so you get massive groups and more groups.

Having a few groups of two or three individuals standing around isn't an issue. But when it's a blob of 15-20 people, it's no longer possible to navigate through it or look through/past it, you have to go around and if they're infront of an art piece, you're mostly out of luck.

As for the city, in many parts you hardly hear any Italian and if you do, it's someone in the tourist business trying to sell you something.

I'm not necessarily complaining, I'm part of the problem haha. Just sharing my experience.

Re:The backlash against overtourism by thedarkginger on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @01:30AM (#18343561)
It was actually crazy to me how dense the crowds were around San Marco and how, if we walked 10 minutes away, it felt like a small town.

Does seem to support the article's hypothesis that people are really determined to collect the marquee experience and don't necessarily feel motivated to do much else.

Re:The backlash against overtourism by lozaning on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @04:11PM (#18340871)
I found Florence pretty miserable and dont get me started on the 'italian food' within a mile of the Coliseum in Rome. I had the good fortune to spend quite some time in Castiglion Fiorentino and found that much preferable.