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Re:My Parents Give Me $28k a Year by sidlls on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:09PM (#18332488)
Most of the arguments you refer to are actually thinly veiled racism ("black dads don't care about their kids") and that is the source of antagonism against them. There is more than a little classism behind Obama's remarks, though: he wasn't exactly raised impoverished or by family who were constantly running afoul of a racist, classist "justice" system.
Re:My Parents Give Me $28k a Year by JPKab on Monday October 29, 2018 @11:22PM (#18333799)
Nobody is saying black dads don't care about their kids. The point is that it's a fair assumption that having over 70 percent of black children grow up without fathers robs them of the advantages of the author immediately. Some of the fathers are incarcerated. Most are not, and likely care deeply about their kids, but can't get along with the mother or can't deal with the stress of parenting.... We don't know, and can't know, because political correctness doesnt allow scientists to ask the obvious question: Why do poor black families have a lower percentage of present fathers than equally poor Latino, white, and Asian families? The data tells us this, and knowing the answer could help empower more black children to achieve their dreams.
Re:My Parents Give Me $28k a Year by balaksakrionon on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:27PM (#18332617)
That seems like the most uncharitable interpretation possible of the above person's comment.
Re:My Parents Give Me $28k a Year by sidlls on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @06:46PM (#18341899)
Re:My Parents Give Me $28k a Year by merpnderp on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @10:40AM (#18346053)
And if you're the only one hearing the dog whistle and everyone else just wants kids to have a better start?
Re:My Parents Give Me $28k a Year by Johnny555 on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @01:36AM (#18334183)
Isn't it also racist to hear someone say "fathers need to be parents too" and jump to the conclusion that the speaker is singling out about black men? There are plenty of fathers of all racists who are skipping out on being parents.
Re:My Parents Give Me $28k a Year by forapurpose on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @07:22PM (#18342088)
> Isn't it also racist to hear someone say "fathers need to be parents too" and jump to the conclusion that the speaker is singling out about black men?

If that were the issue, it's not racist. The response isn't based on the speaker's race but on the content. But it arguably could be 'jumping to a conclusion'.

But I don't think it's that either. The comment said that such statements are often thinly-veiled racism, which is true. Racism is infrequently expressed literally; there is a lot of 'dog whistle' communication and policies. For example, there's a semi-famous interview with a Republican strategist who said that, during the Reagan years, they realized they could no longer make outright racist statements, so they adopted school busing as an issue and expected that everyone would get the message - they couldn't outright say, 'you don't want your kids going to school with black kids, and we're the party that will stop that kind of thing', but they could talk about busing.

Today, when Republican state governments take away voting locations in minority areas, and create ID and registration requirements that disproportionately affect minorities, it's pretty thinly veiled. In fact, those are some of the same tactics were used before the Voting Rights Act (the tactics returned immediately after Republicans on the U.S. Supreme Court invalidated parts of the Act). Some Republicans openly say that it's to prevent Democrats from voting.

Re:My Parents Give Me $28k a Year by delinka on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @11:56AM (#18337943)
"...fathers of all races ..."