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Re:Qualcomm says Apple is $7B behind in royalty payments by comboy on Monday October 29, 2018 @06:40PM (#18332287)
OT, it's useful sometimes, but is outline legal? I mean, whatever the purpose it looks like stealing somebody's else content.
Re:Qualcomm says Apple is $7B behind in royalty payments by fouc on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:10PM (#18332491)
how come no one complains when it's an archive.is/ link?
Re:Qualcomm says Apple is $7B behind in royalty payments by tyingq on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:25PM (#18332610)
Iceland based hosting is often suggested for sites with potential copyright issues because of their freedom of speech laws. No idea if that's actually true, but it is used as a selling point. See https://www.orangewebsite.com/articles/freedom-of-speech-ame... for one example.
Re:Qualcomm says Apple is $7B behind in royalty payments by tyingq on Monday October 29, 2018 @06:55PM (#18332397)
I always wondered how Pinterest skirted this issue.
Re:Qualcomm says Apple is $7B behind in royalty payments by freehunter on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:00PM (#18332418)
Pinterest says "don't upload things you don't own" and when a copyright holder complains they take it down. So is it legal for Outline to offer this service? Sure, if they comply. Is it legal for users to use it like this? Probably not.
Re:Qualcomm says Apple is $7B behind in royalty payments by nurino on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:26PM (#18332615)
Outline has a DMCA link...
Re:Qualcomm says Apple is $7B behind in royalty payments by tux1968 on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:10PM (#18332493)
Since you're in the mood to speculate on legal matters, in which legal jurisdiction is it likely illegal for users to do this? All of them? What if you're sailing in international waters at the time of your post?
Re:Qualcomm says Apple is $7B behind in royalty payments by alain94040 on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:39PM (#18332680)
What flag does your boat fly?

http://www.hri.org/docs/LOS/part7-1a.html

Re:Qualcomm says Apple is $7B behind in royalty payments by tzs on Monday October 29, 2018 @09:11PM (#18333205)
As a first approximation, I'd guess the 176 countries or other entities [1] that are parties to the Berne Convention.

Parties can have exceptions and limitations to the rights from Berne, so it is not necessarily illegal in all of them, but I'd expect it is in a large fraction of them.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention#/media/File:B...

Re:Qualcomm says Apple is $7B behind in royalty payments by drb91 on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:33PM (#18332644)
DMCA Safe Harbor is the term you’re looking for.
Re:Qualcomm says Apple is $7B behind in royalty payments by JumpCrisscross on Monday October 29, 2018 @08:31PM (#18332980)
Almost every comment by this user is a shortened link [1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=neonate

Re:Qualcomm says Apple is $7B behind in royalty payments by Guest9812398 on Monday October 29, 2018 @08:25PM (#18332954)
"Outline is for reading pages that:

* you own the rights to,

* is in the public domain,

* constitutes fair use, or

* you have consent of the copyright holder."

They claim their site is for the above, and people can submit a notice to have content removed that doesn't fit that description. However, the reality is they want people to post and share content from other sites, and they'll happily remove their advertising, and add their own.

I searched site:outline.com on Google, because I wanted to see for myself what people are sharing, and if I might be mistaken. The first result was this article...

https://www.outline.com/vF4aGL

The source is The Free Thought Project. Hmm, I thought maybe this is some type of public domain news source, so I visit them. Nope, they're not. When I visited The Free Thought Project, I instantly get a popup saying, "Thanks to a coordinated attack on independent media by the establishment, this website is at risk of shutting down due to our ads being pulled and our social media pages entirely deleted. We need your help to survive, click below to see how you can make sure we stay around." This is the first Google result for an Outline article, and the company being stolen from has a popup that literally says they're struggling to stay afloat.

I haven't previously heard of Outline, but that is definitely a disgusting business model.