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Re:The Growth of Reddit by ThomPete on Monday October 29, 2018 @05:54PM (#18331893)
Agree

The obvious way out of that is to join bubbles that are aligned with your interests rather than political views. If your interest is politics then find a better interest :)

Re:The Growth of Reddit by SOLAR_FIELDS on Monday October 29, 2018 @08:55PM (#18333127)
Every now and then when I access Reddit not logged in from somewhere I get reminded of this. If you curate what you are subscribed to it will be much better. About a year ago I wrote a little Python script in about an hour or so that subscribed me to every single state-level or above location-based subreddit (there is a webpage that you can go to that lists them all, I simply scraped that). I have learned so much about different cultures just by reading posts from people around the world posting things about their area.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by minkzilla on Monday October 29, 2018 @09:55PM (#18333444)
can you share the script ? I'd be very interested in trying it out.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by SOLAR_FIELDS on Monday October 29, 2018 @10:08PM (#18333523)
Sadly it was wiped when I reformatted awhile back. But it’s rather trivial to implement if you know a little python. The website I scraped is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocationReddits/wiki/index

It took a bit of finagling to exclude the US college and city subreddits but otherwise I subscribed as-is to everything on that page. I think I only have unsubbed to a couple of them manually after, mostly because of excessive political posts by people who clearly don’t live in the area (Israel and Palestine subreddits come to mind)

You get some great content from doing it. Specifically Denmark and Sweden have amazing content in Danish and Swedish respectively that you wouldn’t ever see otherwise. Plus the former Yugoslavia countries and Eastern Europe and basically a lot of Europe generically has some sweet content you would not normally see if you weren’t subbed to their subreddits. Right click to google translate helps a lot. There are some truly dank European memes out there.

One of the other things I noticed that was really cool is that I now am tuned in to state politics outside of my home state in US. You really start to see the major issues other states have when you are subbed to their home subreddit.

Re:The Growth of Reddit by biglenny on Monday October 29, 2018 @08:26PM (#18332955)
100%. Having a "passion" for politics was abrasive to my relationships with friends throughout high-school and returned very little value to me (save the short-lived energy I got from stupid internet debates).
Re:The Growth of Reddit by doublepg23 on Monday October 29, 2018 @09:23PM (#18333272)
Some people don't have the ability to not be concerned with politics.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by ThomPete on Monday October 29, 2018 @09:27PM (#18333293)
If you mean like a bad habbit i agree.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by StudentStuff on Monday October 29, 2018 @10:19PM (#18333575)
Pretty sure doublepg23 was referring to those of us who aren't straight, cis-gendered males. Politics directly affects us, sure the rich among us can run to lavender marriages and try to cover up their innate desires, but the rest of us will end up being fed to the wolves.

For us, going to a rural town or even many suburbs elicits the observation "It smells like dead gay people" as you've entered an area where you may get lynched for being yourself. Even here in Seattle, non-straight couples are getting violently assaulted for being out in public with their significant other. The state of affairs is rapidly getting worse for us!

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Re:The Growth of Reddit by spookthesunset on Monday October 29, 2018 @11:52PM (#18333911)
> Not sure what violence in Seattle have to do with whether you need to get politically involved.

Because that violence, like most issues in life, is rooted in politics. You cannot escape politics no matter how much you dislike it. The fact that you want to escape, or even can escape politics is in itself political. The fact that HN for whatever reason discourages politics is also politically driven.

Politics is life. Either embrace it or get left out.

> virtue signaling

99.9% of the people who use this term are actually committing the "crime" of "virtue signaling". Pot. Kettle. Black.

> FB, Twitter and Reddit with actual political involvement leads to more disappointment than progress

I would say political involvement (and the manipulation of) FB, Twitter and Reddit are directly responsible for our current regime here in the US. If anything, the key to winning is FB, Twitter and Reddit. Ignore them and you won't win, politically.

You make your pathetic jeers at "virtue signaling", but the "virtue signalling" from the alt-right on FB, twitter and reddit is exactly how the 2016 election was won.

Re:The Growth of Reddit by ThomPete on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @06:04AM (#18335131)
It's a nice conspiracy theory it just doesn't have much to do with reality. You don't win people over politically on the internet, especially not by force-feeding identity politics into everything.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by DoreenMichele on Monday October 29, 2018 @11:56PM (#18333927)
If you are unwelcome in enough places, you run out of places to go. If you live in the internet era and know before you go that there's no place free of such, it can easily be a case that standing your ground here and now is the most sensible reaction.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by ThomPete on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @06:02AM (#18335125)
Not if you do it like its done here in this thread. I made a general statement about politics now we are talking identity politics. I am as liberal as they come but this attemp to sneak it into every conversation is not getting you the support you need. It becomes noise no matter how well intended it is.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by DoreenMichele on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @09:51AM (#18336424)
doublepg23 made a really mild general statement and it wasn't in reply to you. You have argued with every single reply beneath it.

Your replies here are the ones that look like noise, a bad habit, etc.

Re:The Growth of Reddit by ThomPete on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @12:29PM (#18338402)
It's not really mild general statement it was very specific to being LGBTQ.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by StudentStuff on Thursday November 01, 2018 @07:35AM (#18352928)
> Some people don't have the ability to not be concerned with politics.

This is doublepg23's comment, despite where the conversation may have wandered, it was a very mild, general statement.

I guessed at what particular group doublepg23 was referencing, but with just a little imagination one can easily think of many non-LGBTQ+ segments of society that do not have the freedom to bury their head in the sand with regard to politics.

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Re:The Growth of Reddit by chrisco255 on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @01:43AM (#18334207)
Do you have any cited evidence to support your assertions about rising violence? And are you sure that "violence against minorities" is not just a general trend? Everything I've read by the way shows that overall violence is way down but it certainly seems like mass shootings are up (but that started with Virginia Tech shooting in 2007 and has been on the rise since). I can't name a single demographic that hasn't been targeted by psychos in the past few years, including white people (like the Vegas shooter who killed 57 country music fans or the Sutherland Springs Baptist Church shooting last year (26 mostly white Christians dead). Psychos are fucking psychos and they get triggered by anything. There's little rhyme or reason to it.

By and large gays have equal rights under the law. The fear of lynching is greatly exaggerated. There's ignorant people in the world...but what can be done to prevent these people from being radicalized? I think that's not a political thing but a community thing.

Re:The Growth of Reddit by StudentStuff on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @03:18AM (#18334460)
> Do you have any cited evidence to support your assertions about rising violence?

https://www.seattle.gov/police/information-and-data/bias-cri...

50% increase between Q1 and Q3 2018, looking at historical data we're seeing double the number of hate crimes as any quarter in 2016.

> By and large gays have equal rights under the law.

Please stop calling us gays, its disrespectful & dehumanizing. We are people just like you!

We do not have equal rights under the law, and there is a patchwork of laws in select states with varying degrees of protection that cover discrimination, nevermind how most of these protections are being rolled back or fought by the federal government right now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_the_United_Stat...

> The fear of lynching is greatly exaggerated.

Tell that to the dead gay men in Orlando, or the multiple people who've been attacked and murdered this year for being non-straight. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_nightclub_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LG...

> There's ignorant people in the world...but what can be done to prevent these people from being radicalized? I think that's not a political thing but a community thing.

Seems you missed what I said in the last comment. This demographic feels emboldened to hate by the current political climate. To prevent things from getting worse, we can't completely block out politics.

Re:The Growth of Reddit by ThomPete on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @05:57AM (#18335108)
That does not show what you want it to show and it certainly does not back up the idea that there are only few places for lgbtq people to go which is the base of your argument for why some have no choice but to be in politics.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by StudentStuff on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @07:28AM (#18344796)
Your comment is extremely vague, and I cited quite a bit of data in my prior comment. Please refine your comment so people besides yourself grasp what exactly you are referring to.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by ThomPete on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @02:50PM (#18348291)
It's pretty simple. Your claim about LGBTQ not being able live places without fearing for their wellbeing is simply wrong and to the extent it's true it applies to most other people too.

So no you don't HAVE to be in politics just because there are horrible attacks on the LGBTQ community.

Re:The Growth of Reddit by StudentStuff on Thursday November 01, 2018 @07:09AM (#18352760)
> Your claim about LGBTQ not being able live places without fearing for their wellbeing is simply wrong and to the extent it's true it applies to most other people too.

How do you know this? Please cite sources, as is you make assertions with no backing. Even a brief read of Mastodon or Twitter shows that many LGBTQ+ people like myself fear for our wellbeing even in supposedly "safe" cities, and justly so considering how we are targeted.

> So no you don't HAVE to be in politics just because there are horrible attacks on the LGBTQ community.

I never said you have to be politically active if your LGBTQ+, but unlike cis-gendered straight people, we cannot bury our heads in the sand and entirely ignore all political news. The results of doing so in the past have been disastrous.

Re:The Growth of Reddit by michaelleslie on Monday October 29, 2018 @06:37PM (#18332246)
That's a remarkably privileged and blasé take, denying the importance of civic engagement.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by ThomPete on Monday October 29, 2018 @07:57PM (#18332786)
Civic engagement happens in the real world, not by commenting on reddit, fb or Twitter.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by Karunamon on Monday October 29, 2018 @11:45PM (#18333882)
Civic engagement happens wherever people discuss politics
Re:The Growth of Reddit by ThomPete on Tuesday October 30, 2018 @05:53AM (#18335094)
That would be quite an exaggeration. You can already see in this thread how fast the conversation deteriorate into completely meningless quibbles.
Re:The Growth of Reddit by rhizome on Monday October 29, 2018 @06:50PM (#18332363)
Posting in political subreddits is not "civic engagement."