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Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by gsich on Sunday October 28, 2018 @12:03PM (#18321213)
Yes. But verifying the source code doesn't guarantee anything, as you don't know what is actually running on the machine.
Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by bilbo0s on Sunday October 28, 2018 @12:11PM (#18321264)
BINGO!

Validating source code does nothing. Even setting aside the fact that firmware and hardware level exploits could be running in any given voting machine, what guarantee do we have that the code in the repository is the code actually running on the machine at the app layer? Or, if you're REALLY security minded like myself, what guarantee do we have that the compiler and build environment didn't slip something in? (I guess that borders more on "paranoid" than "security minded", but you get the idea.)

Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by tomrod on Sunday October 28, 2018 @12:12PM (#18321270)
Unless you specify open testing protocols that also test for cheating (like VW emissions).

It shouldn't be this hard to vote and to trust a certified outcome. Regulators require businesses to run with specified parameters, why do elections get off the hook?

Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by DennisP on Sunday October 28, 2018 @02:00PM (#18321899)
It's not hard, if you use paper ballots and well-established protocols for securing elections.

On the other hand, if you use electronic machines without paper backup, it's basically impossible.

Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by gsich on Sunday October 28, 2018 @03:15PM (#18322391)
Then why do electronic machines in the first place?
Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by vibrolax on Sunday October 28, 2018 @03:35PM (#18322568)
Because they're cheaper. I lived in counties that formerly used mechanical voting machines. They were replaced by electronic ones when the cost of maintaining them became higher than the replacement cost. If security was considered at all, I speculate that it was not the highest priority.
Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by gsich on Sunday October 28, 2018 @03:52PM (#18322731)
I agree but only if paper voting is abolished, otherwise you'll have both systems in place. Or is the paper only used when there are concerns about the results?
Re:US election system reveals frightening vulnerabilities at... by bluejekyll on Sunday October 28, 2018 @03:29PM (#18322512)
Exactly. They provide nothing over the security of a paper ballot.