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Re:At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsett... by Avshalom on Friday October 26, 2018 @01:20AM (#18306953)
I don't know shit about Netflix vs Googles comp but there is a lot to be said for cash: there's no vesting period ; it's dependable, there's no weird dips because an investing firm got spooked; it's liquid, you can spend it at the bar tonight, right now; taxes are straight forward.

That said -- I mean this with all sincerity -- it does my commie heart good to see that absolutely no in this thread is buying Netflix's bullshit.

Re:At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsett... by dunpeal on Friday October 26, 2018 @03:09AM (#18307334)
> there's no vesting period ; it's dependable, there's no weird dips because an investing firm got spooked; it's liquid, you can spend it at the bar tonight, right now; taxes are straight forward.

For the most part, these are all benefits of RSUs at a company like Facebook or Google.

They're totally liquid. They "vest", but in short order.

This isn't startup equity. It's very much real money.

Re:At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsett... by jhall1468 on Friday October 26, 2018 @01:51PM (#18311426)
They are "totally liquid" after 6 months which isn't totally liquid. And those 6 months are subject to the stock market so they inherently carry more risk than base (and higher potential rewards).

You seem rather... aggressive with how much you want to downplay the differences and your entire contribution to this thread has been attacking "Netflix apologists" and defending any argument for cash-based salaries. It's fine if you don't like their culture/comp structure, but you sure seem to have an agenda here.

Re:At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsett... by joshuamorton on Saturday October 27, 2018 @10:52PM (#18318899)
My stock vests monthly and is automatically immediately sold at market price. It's a lot more cash like than you believe.

For a senior engineer, their stock will vest monthly or maybe quarterly. At Google at least, there is no cliff, so you begin vesting your first or second month.

Re:At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsett... by dunpeal on Wednesday October 31, 2018 @08:44AM (#18345172)
> They are "totally liquid" after 6 months which isn't totally liquid.

That is simply untrue. In FAANGs I'm familiar with, vesting can be monthly, very much like cash compensation.

Your other claims are untrue as well.

I'm very much against presenting misleading information, such as comparing total comp at Netflix to base salary alone at other FAANGs. Especially when this misrepresentation is then used to make the blatantly false claim that Netflix comp is substantially higher than other FAANGs.

The number repeatedly quoted in this thread shows the opposite: Netflix total comp appears to be lower than other FAANGs.

I have no agenda here. My initial response to the article was based on what I read in the article. Holding meetings to explain how terminated employees were under-performing - is very toxic in my opinion, and fertile ground for abuse and misrepresentation. Several Netflix employees in this thread seemed to agree with this assessment.

Re:At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsett... by kmonsen on Friday October 26, 2018 @08:39AM (#18308635)
Yeah at Google you have autosale as well, whenever rsu vested they get sold and cash comes into my account. Slight hassle at tax time, other then that more or less the same as cash.
Re:At Netflix, Radical Transparency and Blunt Firings Unsett... by alecbenzer on Friday October 26, 2018 @02:27AM (#18307185)
Stock at most FAANG is liquid though. Google even has an auto-sell program where you basically never even see the stock.

Agree to all the other points though.