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Re:Myth of the Brown Recluse by Mtinie on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @07:34AM (#18291466)
As a native-born Californian, I’m glad to hear it.

As a long-term, transplanted resident of Virginia, however, I’m keenly aware of the statistically small, but non-zero chance of running afoul with a (suspected) brown recluse. In 2014 I spent six days in the hospital after being being bitten on the ankle.

Extensive courses of I.V. antibiotics were used to combat the necrotizing aspects of the venom. Along with a number of different topical anti-bactrials.

Unfortunately, because I did not capture the spider which bit me, it was impossible to definitively point to Loxosceles as the culprit, thus complicating treatment.

Recluse spider bites can be (relatively) painless, initially, and it could have happened while I was out hiking in the woods and stopped for a rest, or earlier, while at my home.

Re:Myth of the Brown Recluse by mabbo on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @09:47AM (#18292356)
Not that I don't believe you (the word 'necrotizing' sends shivers up my spine) but since you didn't catch the spider itself, are there any other species of spider that may have been the biter?
Re:Myth of the Brown Recluse by cgriswald on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @11:09AM (#18293074)
I live in the Bay Area in a warmer microclimate. We've got widows, sizable orb weavers, and supposedly tarantulas (although I've never seen one and have my doubts). I've twice been bitten by something while either under my house or in my basically wild yard and gotten nasty infection. One bite was on my elbow and become necrotic. It was treated only with antibiotics. It now looks like I took a bullet. The other was on my neck and required surgery. Although I had some mild symptoms suggestiong a black widow bite, they were also symptoms of infection, so the doctor concluded it was not a widow that bit me. Anything that can pierce the skin can give you a nasty infection.
Re:Myth of the Brown Recluse by mikeyouse on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @11:56AM (#18293535)
> Although I have my doubts

I take it your never been to Mt Diablo during mating season then? The place is filthy with tarantulas. Just a random YouTube but at certain times of the year, the road is covered in them: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g4w5UbvaYy0

Re:Myth of the Brown Recluse by cgriswald on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @12:57PM (#18294187)
Cool vid. Nope, never been there, but I want to go now. I'm in the hills of the peninsula. I've done a ton of hiking near my house but I've never found one.
Re:Myth of the Brown Recluse by mikeyouse on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @01:18PM (#18294399)
Yeah, as far as I've found they stay in the East Bay. I've seen one in the Oakland Hills, but my friends that are big bikers have relayed disgusting (to me) stories about all of the tarantulas they encounter near Mt. Diablo and out that way.
Re:Myth of the Brown Recluse by sarah2079 on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @04:57PM (#18296312)
I've seen one at both rancho san antonio & the dish.
Re:Myth of the Brown Recluse by zupzupper on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @12:09PM (#18293679)
The tarantulas are out in the hills around the bay for the most part, especially the East Bay hills and down around the Santa Cruz mountains.

My experience with BW bites was my dad getting bit a couple times growing up out in the Central Valley. He had bad flu like symptoms for a few days from the bites. FWIW

Re:Myth of the Brown Recluse by Mtinie on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @10:36AM (#18292747)
Anything is possible, but here's the rationale the doctors who were treating me used to reach their conclusion:

In Virginia there are only two known populations of venomous spiders, the black widow and the brown recluse. A black widow bite was ruled out because I did not exhibit any of the "typical" symptoms that they'd had experience with. I didn't have any pain outside of the bit marks (until later when my lymphatic system started to show signs of blood poisoning and an ache set in). From what I understand black widow bites start off as a "bee sting" type pain and then progress to abdominal pain and full-body muscle spasms.

But as you alluded to, without a specimen, it was an educated guess on their part based on my memory of where I'd been during the week prior to the bite.

Re:Myth of the Brown Recluse by atwebb on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @10:04AM (#18292498)
My guess would be a black widow.
Re:Myth of the Brown Recluse by aidenn0 on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @12:32PM (#18293921)
In Virginia? I never saw one in 17 years. Now that was all in Piedmont and Tidewater; perhaps the valley has them, but I doubt it.
Re:Myth of the Brown Recluse by jayashe on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @04:12PM (#18295909)
saw one while working at a swimming pool in nova a few years back