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Re:Don’t offer co-workers help unless asked by agentPrefect on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @04:30AM (#18290614)
Co-workers who have a tendency to "shepherd" newbies are downright annoying. Other than the initial on-boarding, there is no reason to be involved in solving someone's "new comer experience".
Re:Don’t offer co-workers help unless asked by Jacq5 on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @04:35AM (#18290644)
Not in all the cases IMHO. Sometimes a newbie is lacking experience and be might not be aware of that. He might get overconfident and cause troubles for other and himself. This is where "shepherd" would have helped. I had few mentors that just knew when to help out and what questions are on my mind and that helped a lot.
Re:Don’t offer co-workers help unless asked by agentPrefect on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @04:51AM (#18290738)
But this is exactly what the article talks about - and what I agree with - let them ask for help. To each his own, I agree that some people need that intervention, but for the rest of us, don't assume it.
Re:Don’t offer co-workers help unless asked by Insanity on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @05:48AM (#18290967)
I agree - but make sure you do let them know that it's okay to ask questions. Sometimes newbies might feel bad to ask for help.

I've had someone who recently graduated work in my team, who'd ask help and always apologize a ton of times for disturbing me whilst I had 'more important things to do'. Even though I made it clear quite frequently that I'd rather get disturbed rather than have him be stuck for hours on end.

Sometimes asking for help can make a new employee feel bad or judged and in my opinion, it is part of our responsibility to make sure this is not the case.

(Again, this does not mean to push your help, but just making it clear you are available in case they need you)

Re:Don’t offer co-workers help unless asked by C1sc0cat on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @06:02AM (#18291022)
And some cultures may not feel they can ask for help.
Re:Don’t offer co-workers help unless asked by fouc on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @04:34AM (#18290637)
I agree, randomly helping out in the first few days is perhaps acceptable but after that, they should be treated as any other employee.
Re:Don’t offer co-workers help unless asked by shady-lady on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @06:25AM (#18291121)
so treat the new employee the same as the employees who have been in the company for a few years and have written a lot of the systems and have internalised the business domain/company setup/system architecture & troubleshooting?

unless a company is rewriting the same 10 input form over & over again, I don't think that will work out great for anyone.

Re:Don’t offer co-workers help unless asked by C1sc0cat on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @06:02AM (#18291019)
Why I recall one intern in a large intern in a very large company who blotted his copybook in a very very public way over 20 years ago.

That still has effects today as I was asked by an agent about a job at a company where he now has a senior role and I had to stifle a laugh and turn them down.

They could have done with some advice at the time.

Re:Don’t offer co-workers help unless asked by fouc on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @08:49AM (#18291921)
TIL: "blot one's copybook": to spoil one's reputation by making a mistake, offending against social customs, etc.

By the way I definitely wouldn't hold it against an intern 20 years later, so I'm surprised that you do. An intern by definition is going to make mistakes, even huge ones.

Re:Don’t offer co-workers help unless asked by C1sc0cat on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @12:24PM (#18293833)
Oh it was "that bad" trust me.
Re:Don’t offer co-workers help unless asked by fouc on Wednesday October 24, 2018 @01:10PM (#18294333)
Hmmmm. It's hard for me to imagine a scenario that's so bad, but still the fault of the intern alone and not actually the company's fault for lacking proper controls, code review process, and backups and so on. i.e. an intern accidentally deletes the production database, or writes code so bad that it takes down critical software. Whoops. Pretty bad, but if it's a larger software company or larger IT team then they should've had processes against big mistakes.