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Re:Apple accused of overpricing, restricting device repairs by nomel on Sunday October 21, 2018 @11:42PM (#18272037)
This must be a bad analogy since consumers do widely accept it. Nobody I know cares about where profits go when they buy an app, they just want nice apps that work well for cheap.
Re:Apple accused of overpricing, restricting device repairs by stale2002 on Monday October 22, 2018 @12:13AM (#18272126)
Users "accept" it because it is literally illegal to create an alternative.

If I am a factory, I can't build iPhones and sell them to people. Even if I was previously a factory that Apple contracted to make iPhones previously, and therefore they are exactly the same.

On the other hand, the same arguement does not apply to refrigerators. Most refrigerators are basically the same. It is easy to provide alternatives that are almost the same.

This is not the case for smartphones. Smart phones are a strongly differentiated good, and another company can't just make an iPhone that's exactly the same as Apple's iPhones, as that's illegal.

Therefore apple can do whatever they want with their iPhone, and nobody can really make the decision to buy an iPhone that doesn't have these restrictions.

Indeed, when people tried to remove these restrictions, Apple tried to sue people who jail broke their phones. That's not ok. It is horrible of them to have done that.

Re:Apple accused of overpricing, restricting device repairs by millstone on Monday October 22, 2018 @12:49AM (#18272250)
I don't understand what principle you are endorsing. Are you saying it should be illegal to make hardware devices unless you allow others to duplicate it exactly?

Nobody can make the decision to buy a Chromecast or an Echo or a Nest or a Tesla without restrictions inherent to those devices. In what way is Apple special here?

Re:Apple accused of overpricing, restricting device repairs by stale2002 on Monday October 22, 2018 @01:43AM (#18272443)
The principle I am arguing for is that people should be able to do whatever they want with property that they own.

Apple is different in this respect in that if you try to do something with the phone that you bought, whether it be repairing it against their wishes, jailbreaking it, or whatever, they'll sue you.

These matters have come up multiple times in the courts, and this is what Apple does.

The only reason why they aren't sueing customers today for jailbreaking is because they lost that court battle. But the intention is there.

I don't want them to have the ability to sue anyone ever for doing something to property that the customer already owns, because that's how property rights should work.

Other companies generally do not sue you for modifying hardware that you bought.

Re:Apple accused of overpricing, restricting device repairs by millstone on Monday October 22, 2018 @03:08AM (#18272737)
But what does that have to do with refrigerators? You seemed to be saying it's bad that only Apple can make iPhones?

For the record, Apple has never sued anyone for jailbreaking. They did argue it should be illegal under copyright grounds, and lost that argument. If that's a dealbreaker for you, so be it.