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Re:Understanding Quaternions by GlenTheMachine on Saturday October 20, 2018 @07:08PM (#18265961)
My doctoral dissertation used quaternions to describe spacecraft attitudes. My advisor was a stickler for not only appropriately citing references, but citing the most original (in the sense of oldest) references. This was something of a problem because the original references to some of the mathematical techniques I used were several hundred years old and not in English, and under the theory that a big part of the purpose of a citation is to help the reader understand the backgroud material this seemed a bit excessive. Nobody is going to learn French in order to read about Lagrange multipliers from Lagrange's original papers.

But for quaternions, it was easy: I actually cited the Brougham Bridge inscription. One cannot, of course, check the bridge out of the engineering library to check the citation, but clearly this was the original “publication” of quaternion multiplication.

My advisor finally got the point.

Re:Understanding Quaternions by iantrt on Saturday October 20, 2018 @08:23PM (#18266195)
If someone learned French to read about Lagrange multipliers from Lagrange's original papers, then they would be sorely disappointed: it was actually Euler who first used the Lagrange method! (And by some curious coincidence, the L/lambda could just as easily be a homage to Leonhard as to Lagrange...)
Re:Understanding Quaternions by lokedhs on Saturday October 20, 2018 @11:55PM (#18266660)
Don't they say that mathematical concepts from Eulers era are named after the second person to use them?
Re:Understanding Quaternions by salty_biscuits on Sunday October 21, 2018 @04:26AM (#18267161)
Re:Understanding Quaternions by lokedhs on Sunday October 21, 2018 @07:48AM (#18267600)
That is true too. But it's slightly different from the case of Euler who just invented so many things.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_L...

Re:Understanding Quaternions by ModernMech on Saturday October 20, 2018 @07:25PM (#18266003)
> Nobody is going to learn French in order to read about Lagrange multipliers from Lagrange's original papers.

You'd think, but I had a professor in physics who learned German just so he could read Boltzmann's original works.

Re:Understanding Quaternions by twtw on Saturday October 20, 2018 @07:51PM (#18266083)
It used to be common in hard sciences and mathematics for English-speaking doctoral candidates to be required to show some aptitude for German or Russian. Maybe still is, dunno.
Re:Understanding Quaternions by joeberon on Sunday October 21, 2018 @04:16AM (#18267141)
It’s definitely not
Re:Understanding Quaternions by dboreham on Saturday October 20, 2018 @09:15PM (#18266313)
I believe German was required in order to study Chemistry back in the day.
Re:Understanding Quaternions by hprotagonist on Saturday October 20, 2018 @10:40PM (#18266492)
it had to be. The bulk of the literature wasn’t in english.

it is now..but it’s still good to know for reviewing the older work.

Re:Understanding Quaternions by paulgrant999 on Sunday October 21, 2018 @09:49PM (#18271574)
in fact this is the primary reasons why I want to learn French, Russian, German ;)

reading the masters, is never a waste.