Re:Tesla quietly drops “full self-driving” option as it adds...
by LoSboccacc on Friday October 19, 2018 @11:28AM
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I too believe it's quite not there and won't be in a while, but sneaking the hardware on the running fleet allows to gather load of real world training data.
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Re:Tesla quietly drops “full self-driving” option as it adds...
by ghaff on Friday October 19, 2018 @12:07PM
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Are you suggesting that Teslas send a live running stream of all their sensor data while autopilot is on, including video, back to HQ and that data is then analyzed to find errors so the software can be updated? Because that's what getting value from all those cars driving around would imply.
Re:Tesla quietly drops “full self-driving” option as it adds...
by LoSboccacc on Friday October 19, 2018 @12:34PM
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No I am not _suggesting_ it, I am stating it. doesn't have to be a live stream either they can collect the data during servicing.
They call it shadow mode and it has been running since at least generation 2 hardware in 2016
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/09/01/new-tesla-autopilot-sof...
Re:Tesla quietly drops “full self-driving” option as it adds...
by antsar on Friday October 19, 2018 @12:25PM
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Nice straw-man. The cars might send summarized metrics, maybe even video snippets of extraordinary events. That provides plenty of value while being a far cry from live-streaming all sensor data including video.
I'd still be pissed if my car did that without explicit opt-in, but it doesn't have to be nearly as bad as you make it sound.
Re:Tesla quietly drops “full self-driving” option as it adds...
by ghaff on Friday October 19, 2018 @12:37PM
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I'm not sure what metrics it would summarize though. As I understand it, self-driving systems mostly use supervised learning for feature detection. If someone isn't flagging anomalous events/detections when they happen, I'm not sure what having summarized data is buying you for the most part. (Sure if there's an actual accident. But that is hopefully a rare event.)