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Re:OpenBSD 6.4 released by pjmlp on Thursday October 18, 2018 @01:59PM (#18250535)
Hence why companies are now trying to move away from Linux on embedded, e.g. ARM mbed, RTOS, Zephyr, Fuchsia, ....
Re:OpenBSD 6.4 released by snvzz on Friday October 19, 2018 @04:47AM (#18255160)
Nothing to do with the license.

These systems do things that Linux just can't.

Linux is no RTOS, nor does it have a pure microkernel architecture. It can't do anything where latency guarantees are needed (hard realtime) nor high assurance, nor any actual semblance of security.

I suggest these posts: https://microkerneldude.wordpress.com/2018/08/23/microkernel... https://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2016/01/01/0/

Re:OpenBSD 6.4 released by jhasse on Thursday October 25, 2018 @03:56AM (#18299247)
Fuchsia definitely has something to do with the license. Currently Google is forced to release their changes to the kernel.
Re:OpenBSD 6.4 released by snvzz on Saturday October 27, 2018 @07:22PM (#18318252)
I really do not see a connection between both sentences.

There's far enough technical reasons to ditch Linux for a cleaner design.

Re:OpenBSD 6.4 released by MaxBarraclough on Thursday October 18, 2018 @06:10PM (#18252596)
Sure, Linux doesn't have a total monopoly in every domain. Sony used FreeBSD as the basis of the OSs of the PlayStation 3 and the PlayStation 4, for instance, and the work they did will never be contributed back.

I don't see any proprietary Unix seriously competing with Linux any time soon though.

Re:OpenBSD 6.4 released by pjmlp on Friday October 19, 2018 @02:17AM (#18254553)
The OSes that I have listed have all BSD style licenses, nothing proprietary about them as such.

As for competition with proprietary UNIX, probably not against Aix or HP-UX as they survive on maintenance contracts for big customers like banks and telecommunication companies, but Linux is still no match for high integrity computing OSes, many of which are micro-kernels with POSIX userspace available as possible API.

Re:OpenBSD 6.4 released by MaxBarraclough on Friday October 19, 2018 @04:36AM (#18255114)
> The OSes that I have listed have all BSD style licenses, nothing proprietary about them as such.

Yes, I know - but the software which ends up getting deployed/used/sold will be proprietary forks, right? That's the whole point: the licence is friendly to proprietary forks.

> Linux is still no match for high integrity computing OSes

Sure, VxWorks is safe.

Re:OpenBSD 6.4 released by snvzz on Friday October 19, 2018 @04:51AM (#18255196)
>Sure, VxWorks is safe.

That goes beyond strawman.

Try reading: https://microkerneldude.wordpress.com/2018/08/23/microkernel...

For as long as Linux is a monolithic design, the whole kernel is going to be part of the TCB.

And thus, you should be skeptical of any claims of Linux providing security.

Re:OpenBSD 6.4 released by MaxBarraclough on Friday October 19, 2018 @06:28AM (#18255600)
> That goes beyond strawman.

It's a strawman when I agree with someone?

> And thus, you should be skeptical of any claims of Linux providing security.

When did I say Linux has perfect security?

I presume the point you're trying to make is that different operating systems, with different architectures, can beat Linux in various regards. Of course this is correct. But for a general-purpose multi-platform Unix-like OS, Linux is king, and will be for the foreseeable future.