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Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by rntz on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @11:19AM (#18239917)
You say Helm solves or will solve all these problems.

But if I don't actually need to be able to reach the box in order to use my email - if it will work even when the box is offline, powered-down, stolen, or destroyed - then what, exactly, is the point of the $500 box itself?

It's not privacy, it seems. If it were private, how could it work when the box is offline?

I'm not opposed to a "pay for your email instead of it being ad-and-surveillance-supported" model. I just don't see the point of paying $500 for a box that you're telling me the service will function just fine without.

Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by garry on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @11:32AM (#18240031)
Stolen? The data is secure - keys are stored in secure enclave, and storage is encrypted.

Down? There's continuity of service if you have a 2nd box online, and it's as easy to restore from a live backup as an iPhone from iCloud.

Email is the first app, and there will be more.

Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by chris_mc on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @12:37PM (#18240780)
>if you have a 2nd box online

For $1000 I get 2 boxes I can't use for anything else right now (and still not very reliable inside my home), whereas with Fastmail (for example) I can get an email service for 20 years @ $50/yr that is very reliable. I'm not sure of the value proposition for this thing.

Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by latentpot on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @11:44AM (#18240153)
Why do I need to buy a physical box? Cant they give me a dedicated EC2 Micro instance instead? Solve the ISP issue, and the speed/ connectivity/ power etc?
Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by OJFord on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @12:12PM (#18240490)
It's easier to convince someone that it's securely 'theirs' with hardware than if it seems like just another cloud email service?
Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by latentpot on Thursday October 18, 2018 @12:51AM (#18246007)
How about a VM that I can host at a location of my choice? On prem, ec2, or a dedi somewhere?
Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by the_common_man on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @01:15PM (#18241197)
But then they spend a lot of time being a hardware company, no?
Re:Helm: Personal Email Server by bostonvaulter2 on Wednesday October 17, 2018 @04:09PM (#18243257)
So? It's a necessity of establishing trust with the customers.