You don't think there's another reason why women are not telling you about their experiences?

No. I never bring up the topic with them not do I express any opinions about the veracity of such stories in front of them.

But hey thanks for the ad-hominem that suggests my friends don't trust me despite knowing nothing about me DanBC. I can easily do the same in reverse - did it ever occur that perhaps women tell you about "experiences" because they think you're an easy mark?

You don't think you're guilty of adhom yourself, with your "they're all lying" claim?

And, really,it doesn't matter what they tell me or you. It matters what they tell crime survey statisticians. Have you _ever_ bothered to look up your country's crime survey stats?

Ad hominem would be if I tried to dismiss an argument with an unrelated attack on someone's personality. In this case I'm not even talking about their personalities or making unrelated accusations, just reporting what happened. Reporting their stories in their own words can't possibly be ad hominem and I'm not even accusing them of lying - they clearly told me what really happened, that's how I'm so sure they were never in danger.

I'm well aware of what self reported crime stats say but my entire thesis in this thread is that women routinely make wildly exaggerated claims so why would surveys of what they think change my mind? A huge disparity between self reports and actual criminal cases is exactly what I'd expect to see

I really wish your post above wasn't flagged. I tried "vouching" for it but I don't think it worked.

Thanks anyway. HN readers can't handle the idea of a woman lying at all, really.

Wow, (regarding that video you reference) this is the first time I've seen someone use an obvious mentally ill person to push their strawman representation of a perceived ideological opponent.

>Sorry, I am not yet convinced. And the women I see around me don't seem that stressed out. I'd expect them to be nervous wrecks who never leave the house if everything was as horrible as feminists claim.

"Never mind the cacophony of stories being told elsewhere, nobody has told me directly so they must all be lying!"

Gee, I wonder why no women have talked to you about their experiences with men. Can't say I'd ever be having that sort of conversation with someone that spends their time doubting the experiences of women for no reason, with no justification.

>I also know women who are unhappy if they don't receive any attention anymore.

"I know women that want attention so women must not have it bad or experience casual, common harassment.". How is any of this real?

>I'd expect them to be nervous wrecks who never leave the house if everything was as horrible as feminists claim.

What does this mean? "As feminists claim". What feminist literature are you reading and referencing? How are you measuring the pulse of feminism right now? Could you please clarify if you are simply stating that you don't believe the number of women that have discussed their own personal experiences with harassment? They're all in on some ploy to punk men? I really am curious what the thought is here.