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Re:Why Doctors Reject Tools That Make Their Jobs Easier by Balgair on Monday October 15, 2018 @07:28PM (#18225017)
I've second hand experience with this. Though not a lethal situation (thank the heavens!) the mindset was dead on. A grad student in the BioEng lab was doing her PhD on a fall detection sensor for the elderly. Kinda like what the new Apple watch is supposed to do, but, you know, something that actually works. The lab was working with a device manufacturer that was looking to branch into medical devices as a new market and was partnered with the lab to do the initial PoC. Well, one day she came into the lab to discover that the company had shut down and remote bricked the devices overnight. They were still in early testing, so no people were harmed, which was really lucky. But if they had been under clinical trial already, there was a real possibility that real people out there would have been harmed severely (a 'bad' geriatric fall can become lethal).

All emails to the company were unanswered. All phone calls went to voicemail. Nothing could be done. She was 5 years into her PhD on this and had to restart the whole project (she wasn't much of a coder, more a clinical trials person).

In medicine, the SV mindset of 'move fast, break things' means that granny is breaking her hip and isn't going to last much longer. You CANNOT 'break things' in medicine. However, if you do get though clinical trials, hoooo baby! You essentially have a monopoly and will be rolling in it. MedTech investing is a lot like SV's VC investing, just a lot more careful.

Re:Why Doctors Reject Tools That Make Their Jobs Easier by cf498 on Monday October 15, 2018 @07:42PM (#18225116)
What most people dont realize, depending on the country, those press for emergency buttons for the elderly are not considered an emergency call. Including the advertisement you see on buses targeting people fearing a heart attack. Meaning, it is not guaranteed that the message will go through. It is an app like any else with the same reliability. That was fortunately the point where my former boss declined a contract.
Re:Why Doctors Reject Tools That Make Their Jobs Easier by megy on Monday October 15, 2018 @07:46PM (#18225149)
> Kinda like what the new Apple watch is supposed to do, but, you know, something that actually works.

Does the Apple watch not work?

> But if they had been under clinical trial already, there was a real possibility that real people out there would have been harmed severely (a 'bad' geriatric fall can become lethal).

How would that be different if they didn't have a device? They would have died anyway, right?

Re:Why Doctors Reject Tools That Make Their Jobs Easier by Balgair on Monday October 15, 2018 @07:53PM (#18225189)
> How would that be different if they didn't have a device? They would have died anyway, right?

Maybe. If they think that the device will help them in their hour of need, then they may be taking chances they normally would not have. To have something remote brick and then not tell the people that it was bricked is a gigantic ethical violation.

> Does the Apple watch not work?

Not to a medically relevant level:

"Apple Watch cannot detect all falls. The more physically active you are, the more likely you are to trigger Fall Detection due to high impact activity that can appear to be a fall.”

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208944

Re:Why Doctors Reject Tools That Make Their Jobs Easier by alsetmusic on Monday October 15, 2018 @11:17PM (#18226132)
> Apple Watch cannot detect all falls…

If we pick apart disclaimers, I think we will find that nothing works. /gentle_sarcasm