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Re:The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product ma... by pmiller2 on Monday October 15, 2018 @01:04PM (#18221490)
I think this has some merit. I’ve seen ratios from 3:1 to 10:1 engineers to PMs at companies I’ve been at. I could imagine the ratio going even higher.

Edit: this does raise the question, though: where do product managers come from? What does the career path of a PM look like, including what happens before they become PMs?

Re:The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product ma... by ryandrake on Monday October 15, 2018 @03:03PM (#18222664)
(was a product manager, now a project manager but could move back to my old role pretty easily)

I came over to the dark side from software development. Was tired of implementing other people’s bad ideas and convinced product leadership at my company that I could be an idea guy myself (along with all the other footwork and juggling you need to do as a PM). So it was an internal transfer. I think the good PMs have strong hands-on “actual development” backgrounds. I realize this is a self-serving opinion, too.

Re:The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product ma... by shostack on Monday October 15, 2018 @04:19PM (#18223302)
What made you then decide to switch to project management?
Re:The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product ma... by ryandrake on Monday October 15, 2018 @08:40PM (#18225450)
An opportunity came up and I thought I’d try it. The jury is still out but I think the role fits me better—project management seems to be more execution oriented than creative idea-generating. I’m also a big believer of being a generalist, so any opportunity to wear a new hat is welcome!
Re:The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product ma... by NearAP on Monday October 15, 2018 @03:35PM (#18222938)
1) Straight from Business Schools - Folks who go into technology tend to become PMs after their MBAs

2) Internal transfers - Software Engineers switch to PM

3) Management/Technology Consultant -> PM: Folks switch from consulting (where they are implementing products designed by vendors) to becoming PMs in the vendor companies.

Re:The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product ma... by doublescoop on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @03:28PM (#18232409)
The internal transfers is much broader than just SWE to PM, as well. UX designers, technical writers, QA testers, etc. Anyone working on a dev team might start picking up PM responsibilities and make that transition at some point.
Re:The highest paid workers in Silicon Valley are product ma... by opportune on Tuesday October 16, 2018 @04:10AM (#18227581)
It totally depends on what problems you’re trying to solve. Engineering managers often end up performing many duties of a PM, and in smaller companies the only PMs you may need are the founders/executives

Most PMs I know are former software engineers (or if hired as PMs out of school, studied computer science) with good people skills and high level knowledge of what they help coordinate. I would hate to work with an MBA-type PM who couldn’t appreciate technical problems and solutions