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Re:Java Is Still Free by pjmlp on Monday October 15, 2018 @07:18AM (#18218819)
Only by the Oracle haters that lack experience on the Java world.

Sun, Bea and many others used to charge for support as well, IBM still charges for it, but it is good to pay them because it wasn't Oracle it seems.

Re:Java Is Still Free by TeMPOraL on Monday October 15, 2018 @08:14AM (#18219053)
How does this square with the quote under following link from today https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18217952?
Re:Java Is Still Free by pjmlp on Monday October 15, 2018 @08:36AM (#18219160)
I would take Gosling's opinion over Brian Cantrill's one, given who was actually involved with Java at Sun.

Plus I belong to Java developers community since the early days, and I quite remember how the Sun, Oracle and IBM triad used to push Java altogether.

Including those NC announcements made by Sun and Oracle.