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Re:Trump Just Signed a Law That Changes Life Aboard Airlines by mbesto on Friday October 12, 2018 @06:57PM (#18205304)
> Seems like market forces are working just fine.

Are they though? How come the US doesn't have the equivalent of a Emirates/Singapore quality level airline? You can't tell me there is no demand for that level of service by business folk?

Laymen's explanation - there are a limited number of routes that can physically be established and those who have the routes exhibit rent seeking behavior with only just a small amount of competition. In other words an oligopoly.

Re:Trump Just Signed a Law That Changes Life Aboard Airlines by jessaustin on Friday October 12, 2018 @07:09PM (#18205360)
Those airlines already exist, and would be eager to operate in USA and provide us with service superior to that provided by domestic carriers. The "market failure" is regulations that prevent foreign carriers from serving domestic routes.
Re:Trump Just Signed a Law That Changes Life Aboard Airlines by rayiner on Friday October 12, 2018 @07:03PM (#18205337)
Emirates is a state-owned enterprise and there are a lot of accusations that it's subsidized by the state through below-market borrowing.

Your question is also kind of like asking why HP laptops are lower quality than Apple laptops. Emirates uses its Dubai base to serve primarily lucrative international flights, just like Apple targets the premium end of the market. That doesn't mean that HP is in a market segment without competition, however. Rather, it targets a cost-sensitive portion of the market where people aren't willing to pay extra for quality.

Re:Trump Just Signed a Law That Changes Life Aboard Airlines by jacques_chester on Friday October 12, 2018 @09:33PM (#18205890)
My view is that is the Emiratis want to squander their money on giving at-cost fuel and basically-zero-interest loans to their flag carrier, that's on them.

It's not as though the US air market isn't heavily protected. You'll note that foreign carriers like Emirates can't fly domestic routes. If I fly Qantas to NYC, half the plane gets off in LA and nobody else can get on. Which is part of why "Qantas ticket" is the ancient Yolŋu word for "financial ruin".

Re:Trump Just Signed a Law That Changes Life Aboard Airlines by mbesto on Friday October 12, 2018 @11:34PM (#18206266)
> why HP laptops are lower quality than Apple laptops.

So why can I choose to buy either an Apple laptop or an HP one in the US, but don't have the choice to fly on Emirates from Chicago to NYC? I think you missed my point entirely. There is a market of people willing to pay for superior quality airline service, there is just no supply for it, because of regulation.

Re:Trump Just Signed a Law That Changes Life Aboard Airlines by monksy on Friday October 12, 2018 @07:17PM (#18205383)
We don't have it due to the business culture of America.

They're agressively seeking to increase profit margins.

That meant that expensing has stripped away the ability to book business class tickets. (That is arguable if that's a good idea or not given the complexity of tickets)

The aggressiveness about seeking higher profit margins at all costs has also meant that the money that would be available for those things are considered to be "fat".

The closest that you have with the Singapore/Emirates setup is United Polaris and Global Services.

Re:Trump Just Signed a Law That Changes Life Aboard Airlines by mbesto on Friday October 12, 2018 @11:35PM (#18206271)
> The closest that you have with the Singapore/Emirates setup is United Polaris and Global Services.

Please tell me you're joking.

Re:Trump Just Signed a Law That Changes Life Aboard Airlines by notyourday on Friday October 12, 2018 @08:34PM (#18205690)
Emirates is a state owned enterprise, extensively subsidized by the state which has another reason for existing -- similar to El Al.