Re:We can no longer leave online security to the market
by tptacek on Friday October 12, 2018 @09:46AM
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The point isn't that voicemail is super important; the point is that infrastructure wasn't even secure a decade and a half ago. The systems you're talking about were all exposed then too.
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Re:We can no longer leave online security to the market
by InitialLastName on Friday October 12, 2018 @06:55PM
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As far as I can tell, the first openly networked pacemaker was implanted in ~2009 [0] (Probably earlier in not-announced mode, but not by much). A decade and a half ago, people pretty much only had a home PC connected to the internet in their house. Now they have everything from their lights to thermostats to home security systems connected. 15 years ago, there were probably some internet systems with large collections of personally identifying information on them, but western society as a whole hadn't yet decided to put all the data one could want to know about them in one place (multiple times over).
Everything might be more secure, as you say, but there are so many more ways a small hole could be exploited to do damage now.
[0] https://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-08/first-patient...
Re:We can no longer leave online security to the market
by insertcredit on Saturday October 13, 2018 @12:19PM
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It's clear to me that this is nowhere near accurate and I'm not sure why you insist on making these sort of claims.
One only has to look at self-driving cars to disprove you.
Dan Geer also entirely disagrees with what you wrote [1] [2] and you're no Dan Geer, sorry to say..
Re:We can no longer leave online security to the market
by tptacek on Saturday October 13, 2018 @06:57PM
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Look, Dan Geer is fine, so I won't snark and say "that's one of the nicer things anyone has said about me on HN"†, but let's be clear: Dan Geer and I have a very different kind of day-to-day workload. We'd probably come to different conclusions about all sorts of things. I would also in a million zillion years never quote Nassim Taleb on anything. He's wrong here, as he has been in the past. We've all been wrong about things! I just happen to be right about this one thing.
† Sure, I just did, but I'm being upfront that it's a cheap and unfair thing to say. I'm human.