Re:The Fiasco microkernel
by billsmithaustin on Thursday October 11, 2018 @09:36AM
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It means that in English, too.
Re:The Fiasco microkernel
by albuquerque on Thursday October 11, 2018 @09:43AM
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Also in French!
Re:The Fiasco microkernel
by simonebrunozzi on Thursday October 11, 2018 @10:03AM
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But it's originally an Italian word: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fiasco
Re:The Fiasco microkernel
by escherplex on Thursday October 11, 2018 @10:39AM
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Wondered why that name was chosen too. Etymology meaning failure does show it to come from Italian far fiasco = make a bottle = dud theatrical performance. Reminds you of GM motors wondering why their Chevy Nova wasn't selling well in Latin America. Why? In Spanish Nova = No va = It doesn't go (work).
Snopes[0] disagrees with this story.
[0] https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/chevrolet-nova-name-spanis...
Re:The Fiasco microkernel
by escherplex on Thursday October 11, 2018 @11:40AM
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It is still a marketing class cliché [1] however debunked
[1] https://www.thoughtco.com/chevy-nova-that-wouldnt-go-3078090
I believe the name deliberately refers to the licensing fiasco over who owned the original rights to the L4 kernel that the many spinoffs are based on.
If you knock a glass bottle off of a table, it makes a terrible mess.
In Turkish, too!
And in Dutch!
The tradition/joke with OS design is that a worse name typically means a better OS. (Plan 9, Fiasco, ). While ambitious names often denote a bad OS (plenty of examples there ;))
To tel the truth, Plan 9 was not a resounding success of adoption. Quite a number of its ideas were re-invented independently, and then became successful. We don't run anything using the Inferno VM, but the JVM reigns supreme in the corporate world. Go flourishes mostly in the normal Unix environment. And that mounting a networked GUI application with half of its code running remotely is completely superseded by the Web platform.
Regarding Dis, we at least have Android and Windows, even if is only an approximation.
But it would have been better if Inferno had better luck, but what to expect when even Plan 9 fans keep forgeting that the OS had a successor.
That's why the system is called L4Re nowadays, and the microkernel specifically "L4Re microkernel". Fiasco however remains the nerd version, let alone to have discussions as those here.
Fiasco means total failure without any kind of possible rescue in Portuguese.