I've bought the last two pixels on release day (as well as multiple Nexus before that). I absolutely loved my Pixel 1, but was actually fairly disappointed in my Pixel 2 as it feels so much more fragile and buggy that the Pixel 1. Honestly, I have been looking forward to upgrading to the Pixel 3 for probably 4 months now.

Unfortunately, after seeing what they put out today, I'll probably be looking at other models instead. This phone just looks so "meh" and yet it has such a premium price attached to it. It's almost a bit insulting that they raised the base price and dropped the value they are giving for trade-ins.

I woke up this morning expecting to spend $300 (after trade in) on a slight upgrade to my current phone and they've managed to some how managed to lose me as a customer after seeing what they offered.

> Turns out yes we did know. Literally everything leaked.

Well, rumors a few months ago were that plans had leaked for a third device that would be the spiritual successor to the Nexus line, with stock android at reasonable prices.

We thought we knew, but it seems like a jerk move for Google to make fun of us over our vain hope they'd put out something we wanted.

I've been told the Android One program is the spiritual successor to the Nexus line. Does anybody with more knowledge or experience feel like commenting on that? Do those phones get updates as reliably as a Nexus would in the past?

Also, how does one shop for a phone these days when you want plain old Android and sensible security updates but have other feature concerns as well? I don't want a flagship phone, don't want a giant phablet, and care more about offline GPS performance than data performance...

I am still carrying a Moto G4 Play which I think is borderline too big. It still lasts almost a week on one charge when I take it into the woods in airplane mode and just use the camera app and OSMAnd+ with GPS logging for 3-4 hours per day.

As I understand it, the Android One phones all receive updates from the vendor and not directly from Google. Historically vendors have not done a good job at making updates available in a timely manner.

Google handles the updates for Android One. I have a Xiaomi Mi A1 in addition to a Pixel and it seems to get updated on time. Occasionally, faster than the Pixel even for security updates.

Same thing could have been said about the Pixel 2 but you bought one anyway. They will sell because people settle for well-known and good, not new features.

Isn't consensus that Google's phone sales volume is pretty low? I don't think that they are well-known in non-tech circles; although I would agree that's not about new features / presentation.