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Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by tempodox on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @12:48PM (#18177531)
During the cold war, cozying up to the Russians the way Google is now sucking up to the Chinese would have been rated as treasonous. How times have changed, the almighty dollar sign reigns supreme.

(edit: slight change in wording)

Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by clubm8 on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @12:50PM (#18177560)
>During the cold war, cozying up to the Russians the way Google is now sucking up to the Chinese would have been rated as treason.

I am a huge critic of China's human rights record, but "treason" has a very specific legal definition. Doing trade with a country is not "treason".

Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by tempodox on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @12:53PM (#18177584)
What would be a better term in your opinion?
Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by prolikewh0a on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @05:17PM (#18179880)
Please consider watching this excellent Glenn Greenwald & James Risen debate over the usage of the word 'treason' and how dangerous it is to use it incorrectly. Greenwald cites prime US legal examples throughout history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsY70_uIXNc

Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by mikejb on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @01:33PM (#18178012)
Doing business?

How many US companies do business in China, and have at least some access/collection of Chinese users' data? Are they all traitors?

Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by tempodox on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @01:44PM (#18178121)
I was asking the question in the context of my comparison with the cold war era. Doing business with Russia then wouldn't have been called just “doing business” either, especially if it happened in support of practices diametrically opposed to our own professed values like Democracy and Freedom.

How much of a sellout or a cynic do you have to be to call betraying those values for money merely “doing business”?

(edit: added last sentence)

Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by afiler on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @02:11PM (#18178376)
Even during the cold war, Americans did business with Russia. No large computers or munitions, but Americans still ate Russian caviar. There was this call to boycott it at the same time as the Moscow olympics, but I don't think anyone called it "treason". https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1980/01/31/...
Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by ArchTypical on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @04:49PM (#18179700)
Nobody was actively participating in oppressing the russian population during the cold war. This attempt to dance around the issue is transparent.
Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by mikejb on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @02:33AM (#18182488)
The post you replied to is a direct answer to claims about trade between the US and Russia during the cold war.
Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by ArchTypical on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @12:06PM (#18186202)
The post I replied to is making false equivalence comparisons. There's nothing subtle about the issue being circumvented.
Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by mikejb on Wednesday October 10, 2018 @02:51PM (#18187791)
The equivalence comparison wasn't made by the post you replied to, but by it's parent.
Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by ArchTypical on Thursday October 11, 2018 @07:35PM (#18197901)
> Even during the cold war, Americans did business with Russia

ie A false equivalence.

Me selling flags to Russians is doing business. That has nothing to do with the issue of what constitutes or can be construed as Treason which is certain kinds of business that ally against national interests.

Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by mikejb on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @03:14PM (#18178957)
When the United States have to choose between their professed values like Democracy and Freedom, and economical benefits in the US, what do you think took preference?

Spoiler: US-backed military leaders and dictators weren't pushed to power because they promised to support those values. US companies profited of that, and by that, the US economy.

Re:Leaked Transcript Contradicts Google’s Official Story on ... by adoago on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @01:35PM (#18178033)
That's on you, dog. You're the one misusing the term:

>“Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.”