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Re:Google Exposed User Data, Feared Repercussions of Disclos... by chii on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:44PM (#18171591)
> believed-to-be-unexploited vulnerabilities

you cannot prove the negative (realistically). If you have a vulnerability, you must treat it as though it has been exploited.

Re:Google Exposed User Data, Feared Repercussions of Disclos... by tptacek on Monday October 08, 2018 @06:39PM (#18171935)
That is the kind of argument that carries a lot of force on a message board, but is not at all lined up with how the world actually works. In reality, almost nobody operates under the norm of "any vulnerability found must have been exploited", and even fewer organizations disclose as if they were.

You can want the world to work differently, but to do so coherently I think you should explicitly engage with the unintended consequences of such a policy.

Re:Google Exposed User Data, Feared Repercussions of Disclos... by craigds on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:54PM (#18171658)
Sometimes you can, if you have comprehensive logs that cover it.

edit: Within reason, anyway. Obviously if your vulnerability includes write access to logs or something then you're poked.

Re:Google Exposed User Data, Feared Repercussions of Disclos... by yebyen on Monday October 08, 2018 @06:31PM (#18171881)
I think in this particular case, their policy statement in the sister article from Google blog indicates they couldn't really say that in this case.

> We made Google+ with privacy in mind and therefore keep this API’s log data for only two weeks. That means we cannot confirm which users were impacted by this bug. However, we ran a detailed analysis over the two weeks prior to patching the bug, and from that analysis, the Profiles of up to 500,000 Google+ accounts were potentially affected. Our analysis showed that up to 438 applications may have used this API.

^ the above statement, but couched with this:

> We found no evidence that any developer was aware of this bug, or abusing the API, and we found no evidence that any Profile data was misused.

Re:Google Exposed User Data, Feared Repercussions of Disclos... by reificator on Monday October 08, 2018 @10:30PM (#18172917)
I wasn't arguing one way or the other on the issue, just reframing it so everyone's on the same page.

Devil's advocate: Do you believe that proactive security assessments would still be performed if each vulnerability found was required to be disclosed as though it had been exploited?