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Re:Ask HN: Cheap places to live with a good intellectual atm... by madeofpalk on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:26AM (#18165719)
> There's a reason @paddycosgrave moved Web Summit to Lisbon.

Because the tax payers are paying €110m for it? http://www.thejournal.ie/lisbon-web-summit-new-ten-year-deal...

Re:Ask HN: Cheap places to live with a good intellectual atm... by dpwm on Monday October 08, 2018 @06:36AM (#18166129)
If it pays off by helping make Lisbon a strong European tech scene, which it looks like it could do, it's not necessarily a bad deal for the taxpayers of Portugal.
Re:Ask HN: Cheap places to live with a good intellectual atm... by nelsonic on Monday October 08, 2018 @08:00AM (#18166615)
€110m is an absolute bargain for the value that it has generated. Any public official who was involved in making that decision/deal and facilitating the influx of talent/ideas/energy/capital deserves a medal! Lisbon is buzzing now more than ever, thanks in no small part to Web Summit. It was good before, now it's incredible. Say what you want about Web Summit (that's a whole other rant!) it is unquestionably "net positive" to the Portuguese economy and the lives of tens of thousands of people.
Re:Ask HN: Cheap places to live with a good intellectual atm... by mannykannot on Monday October 08, 2018 @09:52AM (#18167416)
It does indeed appear to have been a very smart choice for Lisbon, but that does not address the question of whether this was the main reason for the location selection.
Re:Ask HN: Cheap places to live with a good intellectual atm... by nelsonic on Tuesday October 09, 2018 @04:55AM (#18174297)
When Paddy (and the WebSummit Team) decided to leave the Dublin chaos, they had a choice between several cities. Lisbon made the best case on many factors. There must have been an "incentive" for them to move beyond simply having a "better venue" or "sunny weather", we (the public) will never have the full picture of the terms of the original "deal" between Paddy and the Lisbon/PT authorities.

Feels like it's been a "win-win" for everyone (except perhaps the "locals" who have no interest in tourism/tech and have been priced out of their rental accommodation by "AirBnB Landlords"... it's the SF apartment price squeeze all over)

If I were to guess the reason for the selection of Lisbon, it would be this: the Web Summit organising team have to spend much of the year in the city where the event is held. They chose a city they want to be in for their own reasons. e.g: Weather/Climate, Food, Culture, Night Life, Scenery (lots of city parks, cycle/pedestrian areas), Architecture, Surf/Sailing, good International Schools (for those who have children) ... Mostly still "cheap" for visitors.

There's a good reason why people say that Lisbon is like SF but with better weather and more affordable.

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Re:Ask HN: Cheap places to live with a good intellectual atm... by point78 on Monday October 08, 2018 @06:37AM (#18166137)
Lmao. Spoken as someone who doesn't understand healthcare, education or basic social services.

Eu dominates the US for quality of life and standard of living.

Re:Ask HN: Cheap places to live with a good intellectual atm... by rataata_jr on Monday October 08, 2018 @07:50AM (#18166537)
Not for long
Re:Ask HN: Cheap places to live with a good intellectual atm... by agentdax5 on Monday October 08, 2018 @08:51AM (#18166928)
Care to elaborate? I would love to see some real plans to change my mindset on where the U.S. is heading.

This is probably considered off, so message me

Re:Ask HN: Cheap places to live with a good intellectual atm... by dnautics on Monday October 08, 2018 @11:23AM (#18168258)
At some point the bureaucratocracy is going to get top heavy. Already the economy is showing signs of being anemic. Common strategy by bureaucrats for curing anemia is top-down investment, which means stealing from the poor (via inflation) to water the privileged. It's inevitable.
Re:Ask HN: Cheap places to live with a good intellectual atm... by sverhagen on Monday October 08, 2018 @05:57AM (#18165942)
Add the US to that list. Amazon HQ2 is a race to the bottom; I'm sure there's other criteria, but at some level that's also just squeezing the most benefits out of the contending cities or regions. And that's just a high profile example.