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Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by projectileboy on Sunday October 07, 2018 @04:58PM (#18162568)
This is almost always the case with consistently successful companies - the CEOs get the coverage and the glory, but scratch the surface and you'll find a stellar COO who makes the whole thing actually work.
Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by wycs on Sunday October 07, 2018 @05:21PM (#18162682)
It should be noted that some people don't really want glory or fame, and are perfectly happy just becoming filthy rich. I think of fame, in this age of online mobs, as a curse, a sort of disfigurement that lives in the minds of other people.
Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by manicdee on Sunday October 07, 2018 @07:00PM (#18163089)
I Gwynne’s case I am pretty sure what makes her happy is achieving the impossible and making it routine.
Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by RangerScience on Sunday October 07, 2018 @05:20PM (#18162679)
"Lightbulb things and battery things" - https://strongfemaleprotagonist.com/issue-5/page-63-2/
Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by __s on Sunday October 07, 2018 @06:16PM (#18162911)
Making battery things just ends up with your name being an SI unit
Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by baq on Monday October 08, 2018 @03:24PM (#18170498)
In this case Gwynne doesn't really need to outshine anyone and didn't need to for quite a while.
Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by liftbigweights on Sunday October 07, 2018 @05:49PM (#18162807)
It isn't just the COO. An organization is successful because of a lot of great people. The CEO or COO are inconsequential.

It's the organization that succeeds, not the CEO or COO or any individual.

It's like a few years ago when steve jobs died, some people were claiming Apple was doomed. The "great man or woman" theory has been debunked enough that we know it is nonsense.

But as you noted, a successful company needs a stellar COO. So why is this news?

Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by sabertoothed on Sunday October 07, 2018 @06:52PM (#18163060)
"The CEO or COO are inconsequential."

That's just absolute BS.

Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by cdepatie on Sunday October 07, 2018 @08:42PM (#18163417)
When you say "The CEO or COO are inconsequential." and "But as you noted, a successful company needs a stellar COO." in the same paragraph, the obvious contradiction really weakens your argument.
Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by liftbigweights on Sunday October 07, 2018 @08:47PM (#18163436)
> When you say "The CEO or COO are inconsequential."

That was in reference to a particular CEO ro COO. It doesn't matter if Steve Jobs or Tim Cook is running Apple as long as they are competent and the organization is solid. As I said, I was referring to the "great man or woman" theory. Of course a successful organization requires "stellar" employees at every level.

> "But as you noted, a successful company needs a stellar COO." in the same paragraph, the obvious contradiction really weakens your argument.

That remark was in reference to the "news" cycle. If every successful company has a stellar COO ( just like they have stellar janitors, mid level managers, etc ), why is it news? Could it be just because she is a woman? That was what I was implying.

The only reason this is a story is because the media had to push out another woman story.

As he noted, every successful company has a stellar COO. Wonder why they aren't getting articles in large newspapers?

Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by BurningFrog on Sunday October 07, 2018 @11:20PM (#18163920)
> It doesn't matter if Steve Jobs or Tim Cook is running Apple as long as they are competent and the organization is solid.

But, at least at a smaller/newer company, the CEO/COO has created the organization. It's not some thing that exists independently of the CEO/COO.

Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by hazz99 on Monday October 08, 2018 @03:23AM (#18164894)
> It doesn't matter if Steve Jobs or Tim Cook is running Apple as long as they are competent and the organization is solid.

Didn't Apple suffer for many years, before Jobs was brought back?

Re:Gwynne Shotwell Is Steadying Force at SpaceX by SamReidHughes on Monday October 08, 2018 @02:11AM (#18164533)
> The "great man or woman" theory has been debunked enough

What? No it hasn't.