Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss reports

Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by ragequitta on Saturday October 06, 2018 @07:35PM (#18157983)

The alternative is horrifying though. No regular user ever updates their stuff unless they're forced to, and in a world of increasingly horrifying botnets that can cripple the world economy on command, I can see why having the average user update automatically is necessary. Note that the average user (even myself, who is fairly good at keeping the latest version of everything installed) wouldn't have this problematic update with the (potential) data loss installed yet. You would have to have manually done it.

Does windows not give you the 250 warnings that it used to to postpone the restart? I turn off my computer every night, so I haven't even noticed that updates occur for ~1.5 years.

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Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by ryandrake on Saturday October 06, 2018 @10:57PM (#18158614)

Decades of force-feeding users unwanted features has trained them to not install updates. I know most people in my family flat out refuse to update software because they're afraid the developers will have decided to re-do the UI again, or move menu options around, or just break major functionality. So because we, as software engineers/companies, can't resist the urge to keep changing things and doing endless re-designs, end users are trained to not get the vital security updates they need.

As an industry we need to get better. A software update should mean things like "improved performance" and "better security", not "totally different UI" and "20 features nobody wants". If users really want the new shiny, it should be optional.

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Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by mmt on Sunday October 07, 2018 @02:41AM (#18159166)

> re-do the UI again, or move menu options around, or just break major functionality.

...or reduce performance on otherwise perfectly good hardware, possibly due to the those changes or the "20 features nobody wants".

I'm a computer professional, and even I have this anti-update attitude for exactly that reason. At least I have the competence to mitigate the security risks through other means, but I can't well recommend anyone else do the same. To quote Tom Lehrer, this makes me feel "like a Christian Scientist with appendicitis".

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Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by CamperBob2 on Sunday October 07, 2018 @05:32AM (#18159691)

Decades of force-feeding users unwanted features

They haven't done that for 'decades.' It started when they realized they literally couldn't give Windows 10 away.

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Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by parrellel on Sunday October 07, 2018 @09:52AM (#18160531)

Not just Windows they're talking software updates in general.

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Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by blep-arsh on Saturday October 06, 2018 @08:30PM (#18158171)

Major Windows 10 releases continue to receive security updates for quite some time after a new release drops, so force-feeding major releases to home users is not even necessary to keep users secure. As for warnings, as soon as the update is auto-applied you lose the ability to reboot without having your OS replaced and possibly rendered inoperable. Security updates are quick and mostly painless, on the other hand, but home users don't get to choose what to install.

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Re:Microsoft suspends Windows 10 update, citing data loss re... by cm2187 on Sunday October 07, 2018 @04:14AM (#18159431)

I thought the model was 18 months of support now:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifec...

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