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Re:Bloomberg’s chip story reveals murky world of national se... by lmm on Friday October 05, 2018 @09:44AM (#18148037)
The Guardian is an established newspaper with a firm commitment to (what it sees as) the truth, and has a top-flight internal technical team which gives them credibility on this kind of topic. (Interestingly we did see an internet split after the Guardian reported vulnerabilities in WhatsApp's security, but at least in that case there was no dispute on the facts, only their interpretation).

Bloomberg is an upstart with an awkward funding model which has already faced serious, credible allegations of political interference and a lack of journalistic integrity (a major investigative story about corruption in China was allegedly spiked at a late stage by management for business reasons).

Re:Bloomberg’s chip story reveals murky world of national se... by ddeck on Friday October 05, 2018 @10:02AM (#18148170)
I wouldn't call them an upstart. They've been around for 23 years and produce some impressive content, but you are correct regarding the story about the families of the Chinese leaders and potential conflict of interest given Bloomberg L.P.'s business.

After the Xi story appeared, terminal sales in China slowed because government officials ordered state enterprises not to subscribe. The Bloomberg News website was also blocked on Chinese servers, and the company was unable to get visas for journalists it wanted to send to China.

In 2014, Grauer told staff at the Bloomberg Hong Kong bureau that the company's sales team had done a "heroic job" of mending relations with Chinese officials who had indicated their displeasure about publication of the Xi revelations. He also warned that if Bloomberg "were to do anything like" the Xi story again, the company would "be straight back in the shit-box."

On October 29, 2013, during a conference call, Winkler told four Bloomberg journalists in Hong Kong that the findings of their major investigation into "the hidden financial ties between one of the wealthiest men in China and the families of top Chinese leaders" would not be published. Less than a week later, a second planned article "about the children of senior Chinese officials employed by foreign banks," was also killed, according to Bloomberg employees

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomberg_News#China_coverage

Re:Bloomberg’s chip story reveals murky world of national se... by techsupporter on Friday October 05, 2018 @09:51AM (#18148079)
Are we meaning the same Bloomberg News? Hasn’t it been around, at least for business news, since about 1990? If so, that seems to me to be well past the upstart stage. But maybe they rebranded or reformed and have no relation to the other name?
Re:Bloomberg’s chip story reveals murky world of national se... by lmm on Friday October 05, 2018 @10:20AM (#18148307)
I perceive them as an upstart in traditional-journalism terms, certainly compared to a newspaper that was founded in 1821.
Re:Bloomberg’s chip story reveals murky world of national se... by pbhjpbhj on Friday October 05, 2018 @11:46AM (#18149044)
So they're lying because they've only been around for 30 years? What sort of logic is that.
Re:Bloomberg’s chip story reveals murky world of national se... by lmm on Friday October 05, 2018 @11:55AM (#18149121)
They don't have the same level of history and reputation that the Guardian does. So people don't trust them as much as the Guardian. Which seems fair and reasonable.