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Re:Rifts Break Open at Facebook Over Kavanaugh Hearing by tzs on Thursday October 04, 2018 @07:57PM (#18144644)
Part of the outrage is that the Senate first tried to not consider the allegations at all. Then they didn't listen to all of the evidence known at the time when they did hold hearings. Then they used a limited FBI investigation that appears to have skipped a lot of evidence.

Enough people who knew Kavanaugh in high school, college, and law school have now come forward with memories that contradict some of his recollections and testimony, especially about the frequency and severity of his drinking, that even if he did NOT do anything to Ford in high school they should raise at least sufficient doubts about his fitness for the Court on other grounds to justify more investigation.

Yet, the Senate majority is rushing to vote. What's the hurry? A couple years ago they said there is no problem whatsoever with the Court only having 8 Justices for an extended time (at least three Senators--Burr, Cruz, and Paul--said they were willing to hold it open for five years if Clinton got elected).

Surely they can take a couple weeks or even a month now and thoroughly vet Kavanaugh?

Re:Rifts Break Open at Facebook Over Kavanaugh Hearing by tomp on Friday October 05, 2018 @11:16AM (#18148778)
What evidence is there except testimony (i.e. the most unreliable kind of court-admissible evidence)?
Re:Rifts Break Open at Facebook Over Kavanaugh Hearing by ck425 on Sunday October 07, 2018 @05:18AM (#18159634)
You have to remember the impact this has on society though. The vast, vast majority of sexual assault allegations are ignored and this has only started to improve recently. By not thoroughly investigating you send a message to victims (a shockingly large minority) that nothing is changing. Even if he is completely innocent (as he may well be) a thorough investigation is extremely important.

Of course, then there's his behavior while testifying and the contradicting accounts of his drinking.

Re:Rifts Break Open at Facebook Over Kavanaugh Hearing by tomp on Sunday October 07, 2018 @08:05AM (#18160163)
I disagree (with the first paragraph). I think we're sending a completely wrong message. The message we should be sending is, (1) protect yourself (i.e. personal responsibility, holds true for all members of the society, but unfortunately a highly controversial suggestion), (2) say "no" (if you boss asks you for sexual favours), and (3) report them to the police. Instead, we're promoting mob justice, lack of due process, lying (most of the false accusers get away with it unscathed) and sexism (believe women). I also wouldn't be surprised if this sets back the "equality movement" significantly, as more CEOs implement the "Pence rule" of not spending alone time with women (including employees).
Re:Rifts Break Open at Facebook Over Kavanaugh Hearing by JoeAltmaier on Thursday October 04, 2018 @08:04PM (#18144667)
I'm thinking its time to pull the plug. Why are we looking to lower the bar for this guy? We can find somebody, easy, who doesn't drink like a fish and harass women. Maybe a woman judge would fill the bill?

We're not trying to fill this post with not-quite-the-bottom-of-the-barrel, and we should stop trying. Lets try somebody clean to start with? Look for the best, instead of the not-the-worst?

And this dude is not being 'unfairly treated', forget that. I don't get to be a Supreme Court Justice either. Almost nobody does. He wants to do public service he can go volunteer at a Senior Center. Hell, he can take up woodworking, I don't care. He should just get the hell off the stage and lets start looking again.

Re:Rifts Break Open at Facebook Over Kavanaugh Hearing by repolfx on Friday October 05, 2018 @02:14AM (#18146050)
We can find somebody, easy, who doesn't drink like a fish and harass women

No you can't. No judge the Republicans nominate will not be the target of some accusation by some woman at this point. If "the bar" is that no Democrat female accuses the nominee of something then then Supreme Court will be ...

... Maybe a woman judge would fill the bill?

Ah, now I get it.

Yes that's right. Make it impossible for a man to be a judge by insisting that any and all claims must be believed no matter how ancient, vague or implausible, to ensure that the court ends up packed with women.

If America continues down this path it will end very, very badly for women. We could easily end up returning to a time where women are disbelieved by default when they make an accusation of something. The Kavanaugh case has to be one of the clearest cases I can see of a frivolous politically motivated complaint (which is very likely false). Accusations of sexual assault are not tools to try and tilt the composition of courts.

Re:Rifts Break Open at Facebook Over Kavanaugh Hearing by JoeAltmaier on Friday October 05, 2018 @04:50PM (#18151632)
You can look for conspiracy all you want. I don't find it at all unusual to think this guy was everything he was said to be.

There are plenty of folks who have sterling records and stainless background, lets not kid ourselves. Pretending its persecution doesn't get you far.

There's no evidence its come to anything extreme. How about, try one more time? Is two people too many to ask?

Re:Rifts Break Open at Facebook Over Kavanaugh Hearing by tzs on Friday October 05, 2018 @02:29AM (#18146107)
> No you can't. No judge the Republicans nominate will not be the target of some accusation by some woman at this point

Gorsuch faced no such accusations.