The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, Chinese Government

Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by uptown on Thursday October 04, 2018 @08:43AM (#18139347)

"Apple has never found malicious chips, “hardware manipulations” or vulnerabilities purposely planted in any server. Apple never had any contact with the FBI or any other agency about such an incident. We are not aware of any investigation by the FBI, nor are our contacts in law enforcement."

Bloomberg's article and Apple's statement can't both be right.

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Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by actionscripted on Thursday October 04, 2018 @12:53PM (#18141561)

The other Bloomberg article [1] says:

>"Three senior insiders at Apple say that in the summer of 2015, it, too, found malicious chips on Supermicro motherboards. Apple severed ties with Supermicro the following year, for what it described as unrelated reasons."

[1]: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-h...

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Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by writepub on Thursday October 04, 2018 @04:34PM (#18143422)

> Bloomberg's article and Apple's statement can't both be right.

Possible that Apple employees with security clearance are the only ones with this knowledge i.e. it's fully possible that even Tim Cook doesn't know about this

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Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by xvector on Thursday October 04, 2018 @06:58PM (#18144420)

This absolutely cannot be the case in the face of the press release. This would actually be illegal.

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Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by lukeschlather on Thursday October 04, 2018 @08:20PM (#18144734)

And nobody involved with US intelligence agencies would ever do anything illegal?

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Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by baq on Thursday October 04, 2018 @08:46AM (#18139365)

expected given that we're talking about is something that could be the plot of a jason bourne movie.

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Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by kazagistar on Thursday October 04, 2018 @11:19AM (#18140672)

Oh, the tech described is very real, and has been a known nation state level attack for years. It's the scale and targeting of the attack that is new.

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Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by cm2187 on Thursday October 04, 2018 @08:49AM (#18139386)

Or if Apple is bound by some kind of non disclosure order.

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Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by uptown on Thursday October 04, 2018 @08:52AM (#18139406)

Even if they were bound by a non-disclosure order, this response goes beyond what's necessary to refute the story and conveys material information which would be used against Apple by shareholders if it is later found to be factually inaccurate.

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Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by PascLeRasc on Thursday October 04, 2018 @10:06AM (#18139985)

Next week: The real hardware plant was counterfeit sources claiming to be Apple.

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Re:The Big Hack: Statements From Amazon, Apple, Supermicro, ... by MrBingley on Thursday October 04, 2018 @09:35AM (#18139719)

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

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