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Re:New autonomous farm wants to produce food without human w... by Animats on Thursday October 04, 2018 @01:04AM (#18137319)
That Dutch hydroponic system is nice. It has many of the features of cost-effective mechanization. The system is mostly water tanks in huge greenhouses, with automated handling equipment around the edges. Plants are handled in trays much larger than humans can handle, so fewer units have to be handled. There's not a lot of wasted motion; the cycle taken by the growing pallets is about as short as it could be. Looks like a profitable business.
Re:New autonomous farm wants to produce food without human w... by wiz21c on Thursday October 04, 2018 @02:31AM (#18137656)
>>> Looks like a profitable business.

But is it a business worth purusing for humanity. Have you ever tasted hydroponics lettuce ? It's so inferior in taste and the sensations it gives in your mouth. It may have all nutrients, but if nutrients is the point, then let's eat soylent green.

Re:New autonomous farm wants to produce food without human w... by Animats on Thursday October 04, 2018 @03:03PM (#18142637)
There's a lot of whining from the "traditional organic" farming industry about this.[1] They got disrupted by hydroponic technology.

Here's a major "organic" tomato operation in California.[2] It's indoors. The growing medium is coconut husks with computer controlled drip irrigation. It's more similar to a hydroponic operation than to an outdoor farm.

[1] https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/11/02/561462293/hy... [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ayKz9-FbhA

Re:New autonomous farm wants to produce food without human w... by jelliclesfarm on Thursday October 04, 2018 @08:55PM (#18144879)
I disagree. California rules tomatoes outdoors...processing, heirloom and cherries. We have the perfect climate and soil for it. Hands down, outdoors is way more efficient and prodctive than anything with indoor tech.
Re:New autonomous farm wants to produce food without human w... by TeMPOraL on Thursday October 04, 2018 @03:09AM (#18137819)
That just means there's space for improvements to be made. There's research to be done on what makes plants tastier, and there's work to be done in applying such research.

But yes, being able to produce fresh food better, faster and in more controlled way is definitely worth pursuing for humanity.

Re:New autonomous farm wants to produce food without human w... by wiz21c on Friday October 05, 2018 @08:09AM (#18147438)
>>> There's research to be done on what makes plants tastier, and there's work to be done in applying such research.

there's earth, rain and sun and millions of years or R&D already done and proven successful. I really wonder what kind of research youo want...

What you may want is : tasty food for everyone on earth. But that's not science, that's much more politics.

Re:New autonomous farm wants to produce food without human w... by mtrovo on Saturday October 06, 2018 @06:14AM (#18154398)
Don't know if you're being a troll but in fact there's a lot of research to be done. https://www.collective-evolution.com/2016/02/11/this-is-what...

A lot of food that we eat today evolved really fast after we started to care about their taste and only select the ones with the properties we want. We're talking about maximum 10k years of fast evolution for human taste, not millions of years.

Re:New autonomous farm wants to produce food without human w... by deialtrous on Thursday October 04, 2018 @09:50AM (#18139845)
>But yes, being able to produce fresh food better, faster and in more controlled way is definitely worth pursuing for humanity.

But it isn't better. And why is making worse food faster worth pursuing for humanity? All the available evidence seems to suggest that a rural agrarian lifestyle provides more happiness and fulfillment. It would seem that we should be pursuing how to move people into the country to grow their own food, not how to support the highest possible population of humans at the expense of those humans and everything else on the planet.

Re:New autonomous farm wants to produce food without human w... by thatcat on Thursday October 04, 2018 @07:50AM (#18139011)
Have you considered that hydroponic vegetables will tend to have a much greater variance in quality than those produced in dirt due to the fact that so much control can be exerted by the grower?

Given the history of agriculture and the tendency to select for large watery produce, it seems like what you've experienced is the result of a profit optimization rather than an anecdotal example of hydroponics limitation in regards to producing quality vegetables.