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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by nagi2k4 on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @11:23AM (#18131073)
I use a MBP at work and just bought a Surface Book 2 to use for side projects. It's everything I want a MBP to be, good battery life (you can go almost a full day on a single charge), a touch screen that works exceedingly well, and function keys that are...keys. Using the stylus also changes your workflow, instead of screen shotting, opening in preview, and annotating, you just kind of draw on the screen and share the image.

Only major downside I've run into is that there do not seem to be any native terminals for Windows that even come close to rivaling iTerm 2. Cmdr is decent, but has some weirdness around colors and ligatures; Hyper is also decent, but has some rough edges. Suspect that'll change as more devs start needing decent *nix environments to develop on.

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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by redacted on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @11:32AM (#18131194)
Yeah, completely agree on my Surface Book being the MBP I wanted to buy Great hardware (including touchpad and keyboard), Win 10 and WSL have come a long way, and the touchscreen and stylus option became part of my workflow much quicker than I expected. Probably the best laptop I've ever owned, including the 2010-2015 era 15" MBPs.

Regarding native terminals, I've had the best success with ConEmu set up to drop into WSL zsh by default. Easy to launch into cmd or powershell for Windows native stuff to boot.

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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by zamalek on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @12:40PM (#18132021)
I'm building a terminal for Windows, part terminal envy and part learning Direct2D. It's currently bloody fast, renders minimally (so battery-friendly), has ligature and color font support and works in remote sessions (read: where there isn't a GPU available). It isn't yet a terminal, though - I'm still working on the VT parser.

Could you take a minute to put a "+1" emoji on, say, your top three features: https://github.com/jcdickinson/tv/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=la...

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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by jamesgeck0 on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @11:26AM (#18131108)
The terminal situation will hopefully improve shortly; Microsoft just recently overhauled their console API with a backwards compatible API that behaves much closer to how *NIX works.
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by mey on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @11:47AM (#18131400)
Better terminals are coming to Windows. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2018/08/02/wind...
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by ofrzeta on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @11:51AM (#18131449)
It's hilarious to see Microsoft educate their audience about things Unix and Linux users have take for granted for a long time. Like leaving their parallel universe after all those decades. Also interesting to see their jumping through hoops to get there.
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by mey on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @04:44PM (#18134672)
What's wrong with providing context and why the Windows system doesn't historically work the same way?
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by ofrzeta on Thursday October 04, 2018 @01:18AM (#18137379)
Who said wrong? I think it's funny to see. Loosen up downvoters.

It's not like Unix was hidden somewhere for the last 50 years. It's just that Windows users didn't seem to bother. For what it's worth the OS course at my former university did cover Unix and NT (based on the Stallings book).

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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by supernintendo on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @11:47AM (#18131395)
ConEmu is pretty good - https://conemu.github.io
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by nailer on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @11:40AM (#18131307)
Also moved from Mac to Surface, 2 years ago. Used iterm2, which I believe is one of the highest quality pieces of software ever made. Before that gnome terminal pn various Linux OSs.

I regularly check out ConEmu, Hyper, Alacritty, etc for their current state on Windows (cmder isn't a terminal, but it includes ConEmu which is).

Most have major bugs - see https://github.com/mikemaccana/powershell-profile/ for links to specific unresolved issues.

The current most stable modern Windows Terminal is absolutely: Terminus.

https://eugeny.github.io/terminus/

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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by kristiandupont on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @01:36PM (#18132617)
I might add vscode to this. You probably don't want it running solely as a terminal, but I've become used to it while developing and it's pretty nice on both Windows and Macos.
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by wetpaws on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @11:58AM (#18131527)
Hyper was almost unusable due to electron performance, how does Terminus hold against it?
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by nailer on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @01:39PM (#18132650)
I spend 10 hours a day in Terminus on a Pentium M and it's fine.
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by newusertoday on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @11:36AM (#18131258)
have you tried WSL https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10? i found it quite usable
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by giancarlostoro on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @12:11PM (#18131704)
This is all I use. I highly recommend it.
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by phowat on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @11:30AM (#18131168)
I second this, I haven't found a Windows terminal that comes close to being as comfortable to use as iTerm, or even Terminal.app for that matter.
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by rhinoceraptor on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @12:25PM (#18131843)
This is a bit of a terrible hack, but what I do is install an X server for Windows (I use VcXsrv, but there's a couple options), then from WSL launch Gnome terminal or whichever terminal emulator you like from Linux.
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by L0stLink on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @12:45PM (#18132097)
That is about to change https://github.com/jwilm/alacritty/pull/1374#issuecomment-42...
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Re:Microsoft now has the best hardware lineup in the industry by matthewaveryusa on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @11:28AM (#18131134)
not native, and assuming you use the terminal to shell into other devices -- Have you used mobaxterm? I think it's pretty great
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