News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by sinaz on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @08:29AM (#18129504)
Which has a few privacy scandals of its own. Marginally better than Chrome, not a silver bullet.
Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by orf on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @08:31AM (#18129519)
Can you elaborate as to why it is "marginally better than Chrome" please.

You could start by explaining how a privacy focused nonprofit is marginally worse than a multi-billion dollar advertising company with regards to privacy.

Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by _red on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @08:44AM (#18129616)
Because your "privacy focused nonprofit" is itself funded by those very same "multi-billion ad companies".
Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by orf on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @08:51AM (#18129663)
Sure, so this means they are now a multi-billion dollar advertising company as well?

If a tobacco company makes a donation to a cancer research charity, do we now hate the charity?

Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by lallysingh on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @08:48AM (#18129630)
The money flow itself doesn't invalidate them. They have multiple bidders for their defaults, and that isolates them from the whims of their funders. The funders are just customers.
Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by matthewmacleod on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @08:30AM (#18129513)
Marginally better than Chrome

That's a gross misrepresentation.

Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by paulryanrogers on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @08:32AM (#18129521)
Are you saying you think it's much better or much worse?
Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by matthewmacleod on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @08:35AM (#18129544)
Firefox is better.
Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by sinaz on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @08:31AM (#18129515)
Well... regarding what Mozilla did with Cliqz, I'm sure Google won't be sending my user data to third parties, which Mozilla did. So maybe Chrome is better than Firefox in that regard.
Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by lallysingh on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @08:54AM (#18129680)
Do you mean this https://www.zdnet.com/article/firefox-tests-cliqz-engine-whi... ?

Mozilla was an investor in Cliqz, so it's not precisely a full-on third party. And the data was (at least, according to the article) well anonymized.

I can see why Moz would want to try and keep up with the user advantages of collecting this information -- catching malicious URLs, etc -- but even if it's just appearance-wise, they've lost a bit of trust here.

Frankly I think they should have two distributions of Firefox, one that's bells-and-whistles for the best user experience, and another that takes a more aggressive pro-privacy stance. This can be little more than the set of preinstalled extensions + default config.

Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by sciurus on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @09:37AM (#18130028)
To an extent Mozilla has that now on mobile with Firefox vs Firefox Focus.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/mobile/

Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by lallysingh on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @09:56AM (#18130201)
Downloading focus now. Thanks!
Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by icebraining on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @08:44AM (#18129611)
Google does send your user data to third-parties, for "external processing" (it's in their privacy policy).
Re:Why I’m Worried About Google by Valmar on Wednesday October 03, 2018 @08:37AM (#18129560)
"Scandals" which have been nothing more than a bunch of idiots completely misunderstanding and/or misrepresenting what Mozilla is actually doing.

Mozilla does not have a history remotely related to any sort of privacy violations, except in the eyes of those who think that literally anything to do with "telemetry" or "advertizing" is automatically evil.

Problem is, you can have non-privacy-invasive and non-malicious telemetry and advertizing.

Google and Microsoft are particularly nasty in this regard. But don't extrapolate their behaviour onto Mozilla.